Deep state
In contrast to the publicly visible structures of the nation state, the phrases deep state, shadow government or permanent government refers to the more murky power structures which influence and/or control them from behind the scenes. The term is a translation of a Turkish phrase (derin devlet) which evolved as a response to the 1996 Susurluk incident which dramatically unmasked the Turkish deep state.
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Official Narrative
The official narrative of deep states used to be that they simply do not exist. This position was modified in the last few years to the claim that they don't exist here. In 2013 the New York Times defined the deep state as "a hard-to-perceive level of government or super-control that exists regardless of elections and that may thwart popular movements or radical change. Some have said that Egypt is being manipulated by its deep state."[1] Since the New York Times (like the rest of the commercially-controlled media) is more or less a under the control of the deep state, such a mention is very interesting. The implication of the second half of their definition is clear:- other countries are not being manipulated by a deep state. A 2012 blog post at the World Bank takes the same line, "You think your country has undergone a transition to democracy... You realize that there are powerful elite formations bequeathed by years, even decades, of authoritarian rule still able to block progressive change and protect their interests." By stating that "deep states that exist in many youngish ‘democracies’", it neatly skirts the sensitive topic of deep state control over governments which have long claimed to be 'democracies'.[2]
Problems
The term "deep state" has experienced something of a surge in popularity in the last few years, not in the context of so called developing nations, but the US. This may reflect a disillusionment with the kleptocratic state of the US regime, which is an increasingly thinly disguised police state. Misleading metaphors such as "bad apples in government" of "deadlock in congress" are still used by the commercially-controlled media, but as the revolving door between government and private industry becomes ever clearer, more and more people are seeing the bloody fingerprints of the military industrial complex on the levers of 'democratic' government.
There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power.
Mike Lofgren[3]
Behaviour
As powerful and self-interest groups (probably even more dominated by psychopaths and sociopaths than other large hierarchies), deep states seek to frustrate radical and progressive change, so as to preserve their own power, and that of the establishment in general. In contrast to overtly authoritarian rule, deep states must operate more or less secretly, like terrorist groups, so preserving secrecy is a high priority. Control of the commercially-controlled media is essential to the effective preservation of secrecy need for the deep state to work effectively. In the US this is effected through deep state control of the CIA. With the apparatus of nation states under their control, their subterfuges can be elaborate and complex. The deep states of the world have a natural common interest in hiding their existence, which predisposes them to mutual assistance. As a Turkish cartoon put it in 1997 "Deep state protects its own."[4]
Basic Structure
While the exact composition of particular deep state groups may vary, they appear to be more or less centered upon what Dwight Eisenhower referred to as the "Military-industrial-congressional complex", although intelligence agencies are clearly essential to their functioning.
- The leadership of intelligence agencies;
- Some senior or longstanding non-elected officials within government (e.g. top civil servants);
- Selected individuals with control of key commercial, military and/or criminal groups in:
- The 'defence' and (anti-)terrorism industries
- The financial sector
- Major media[5]
- Deep state actors, i.e. individuals who broker agreements between other members of the deep state;
Power relations between deep state actors are more fluid than the visible organisational structures which they dominate. Relationships between Mafia families offer a suitable parallel, combining an often uneasy cooperation with occasional violent and sudden change. The common interest shared by all deep state groups in preventing exposure of the real goings on behind the facade of electoral politics allows even violently opposed factions to cooperate if needed to suppress details of deep events.
Quotes
President John F. Kennedy excerpt from speech on April 27, 1961:
"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence - on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined.Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." [6]
Excerpt from The New Freedom by President Woodrow Wilson:
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” [7]
After signing the Federal Reserve Act:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." [8]
President Harry Truman:
"For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the government.... I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations." [9]
President Theodore Roosevelt:
“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.” [10]
Deep Politics
- Full article: Deep Politics
- Full article: Deep Politics
"Deep Politics" is a term used to describe the topics and processes of importance to the agents of the deep state. These might or might not be recognisable as connected to the concerns called "politics". Since (by definition) deep politics are concerns of which the public are ignorant, they are generally presented instead as politics. In most countries of the world today, party politics is basically a veneer used to obscure the real, deep political, considerations. In contrast to multiple levels of superficial political considerations, deep political motives are sometimes much simpler; Charlotte Denett, for example, suggests that the deep politics of WW1 and WW2 was actually centered on control of the Middle East's oil and gas supplies.[11]
Deep Events
- Full article: Deep Events
- Full article: Deep Events
"Deep Events" are the footprints of deep political intrigues. Deep political events which cannot be hidden are presented as simple events devoid of deep political significance. The JFK Assassination, for example, was presented by the commercially-controlled media as the work of a "Lone Nut" devoid of deep state connections. The 9/11 attacks have obvious connections to the rollout of the War on Terror, starting the Iraq War etc. but while the broad outline is easily understood, the details remain obscure even to interested observers. Larry Silverstein's multi-billion dollar windfall is publicly acknowledged and the insider trading is widely known, but evidence is accumulating that these were relatively minor parts of much larger financial frauds carried out.[12][13] Many deep events go unnoticed by the world at large, with a deeper meaning understood only by a few deep political insiders. Others, such as the premature death of Gareth Williams are noted but their deep political significance is indecipherable.
Supranational Nature
The name "deep state" suggests an immediate parallel with nation state. There may be a one-to-one correspondence with nation states, since such groups commonly originate in particular localities, and it is hard for more than one such group to effectively control the key organs of a national government. However, a clear correspondence cannot exist since deep states are looser structures lacking formal definition.
Control of individual nation states is not a satisfactory way to grasp the complexities of 21st century deep politics. Just as 'globalization' has created multi-national corporations which operate with a significant degree of independence from state law, so deep state groups are interconnected and some have global reach. Peter Dale Scott refers in a recent essay to "A Supranational Deep State", noting how their international integration effectively allows deep states to evade the control national governments[14], reversing the public power relationship, a process facilitated by the wealth of new supranational treaties being brought in under the banner of free trade.
Scott suggests that a key turning point in this development was the success of the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Although partially compromised, their scrutiny of the CIA following the high profile assassinations carried out in the 1960s (e.g. of JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X) was effective enough to introduce monitoring practices that imperilled the CIA's ability to carry out unsupervised black operations. In response, operations were offshored to foreign intelligence agencies, most notably through the Safari Club:
The complex milieu of Khashoggi, the BCCI, and the Safari Club can be characterized as a supranational deep state, whose organic links to the CIA may have helped consolidate it. It is clear however that decisions taken at this level by the Safari Club and BCCI were in no way guided by the political determinations of those elected to power in Washington.
Peter Dale Scott, 2014 (Emphasis added)[14]
Examples
| Page name | Description |
|---|---|
| Ancient Rome/Deep state | The Ancient Roman Deep State. |
| Australia/Deep state | The Australian deep state appears to be closely controlled from London/Washington. It has been using the country as a test-ground for emerging social control legislation. |
| Austria/Deep state | The Austrian deep state |
| Belgium/Deep state | The Belgian Deep state, most significantly exposed by the Dutroux Affair, appears to employ similar methods of control to other European deep states, including bribes, sexual blackmail, intimidation and assassination. |
| Canada/Deep state | The Canadian Deep state in 2022 was shown to be in the grip of the Supranational Deep State. |
| China/Deep state | Xi vs Shanghai or more complex? |
| Denmark/Deep state | The Danish deep state, not yet well documented here. |
| Europe/Deep state | As a highly secretive, long established deep state milieu, Le Cercle, has been active Europe wide in political subversion. |
| Finland/Deep state | The Finnish deep state is currently influenced by the WEF |
| France/Deep state | The French deep state, closely collaborating with Supranational Deep State policy since 2001. |
| Germany/Deep state | Taken over by the US/UK deep state after the German defeat in WW2. A high profile public "denazification" was used to hide the high degree of deep state continuity. |
| Greece/Deep state | The Greek deep state |
| Information space | |
| Israel/Deep state | The Israeli Deep state is important and highly influential, but not well documented. |
| Italy/Deep state | The Italian deep state, post-WW II, centered on the Operation Gladio network run through NATO and heavily influenced by the CIA and MI6. |
| Japan/Deep state | The Japanese deep state was rebooted by the US deep state after the Japanese defeat in WW2.<a href="#cite_note-1">[1]</a><a href="#cite_note-2">[2]</a> The Japanese government took a much more careful line than other countries as regards the COVID jabs. |
| Netherlands/Deep state | Closely allied with the US Deep state. Leader and strange enabler (after banning it after World War II) of the EU-illegal drug trade, run from Amsterdam. Known for Bernhard von Biesterfeld and his involvement in developing Bilderberg and the 1001 club, and a possible sex cult and crime syndicate surrounding the royal family. Since the 2010s led by deep politicians and their consultants in NATO and EU institutes. |
| Norway/Deep state | The Norwegian Deep state used operation Gladio era cells in the 20th century, and contains members of the Norwegian Shipowners' Association. |
| Pakistan/Deep state | The military plays an very notable role in Pakistani politics. |
| Poland/Deep state | The Polish deep state |
| Portugal/Deep state | The Portuguese deep state is not yet well documented in Wikispooks, but seems to be a fairly typical European deep state. |
| Romania/Deep state | The Romanian deep state is not yet well documented here. Ion Iliescu, the only known Romanian visitor to Le Cercle, was President of Romania for over a decade. |
| Russia/Deep state | The Russian Deep State, unlike the deep states of western "democracies" is occasionally reported on by the corporate media. It appears to be collaborating with the supranational deep state. |
| SDS | Since the 1970s, formerly separate deep states have integrated and now routinely conspire to subvert governments and international organisations. The collective effort to cover-up 9/11 saw this emerging supergroup fuse into a single Supranational Deep State, one with direct control over governments, central banks and global trafficking of drugs, weapons, people etc. Its reliance on deception, however, continues to make its long term prospects far from certain. |
| Saudi Arabia/Deep state | Not well documented here |
| Serbia/Deep state | The Serbian deep state, not very well documented here, but exposed by the 6th Integrity Initiative Leak |
| South Africa/Deep state | The South African deep state was installed by the Milner Group and anwered to London. The group hosted many meetings of Le Cercle and is believed to have carried out assassinations for the Supranational Deep State. |
| South Korea/Deep state | A deep state created and strongly dominated by the US. |
| Spain/Deep state | The Spanish deep state |
| Sweden/Deep state | The Swedish deep state involves the Wallenberg family and Wallenberg sphere. |
| Switzerland/Deep state | Switzerland is the place for significant deep state activities. Houses the BIS. |
| Turkey/Deep state | 'Derin devlet' is a deep state network based in Turkey. Repeated indiscretions resulted in its partial exposure, leading to the English phrase 'deep state' to refer to the phenomenon of a 'state-within-a-state or 'shadow government'. |
| UK/Deep state | The British empire has long been influenced by various mostly unseen forces. These are being increasingly exposed in the 21st century. After WWI, the UK deep state increasingly came under the influence of the US deep state. |
| US/Deep state | The US deep state goes back centuries, but its modern configuration is fairly easily traced back to the 1963 coup which fused an alliance into a single coherent Cabal. Under the leadership of George H. W. Bush after the Watergate coup, the group became centered on the Bush family. It has been aggressively waging a "War On Terror" since 9-11 quickened the supranational deep state. In recent years it has lacked clear leadership and suffered leaks, infighting, short-termism & confusion about handling its increasingly public profile. |
Related Quotations
| Page | Quote | Author | Date |
|---|---|---|---|
| "Conspiracy theorist" | “Here's the thing. There's about 150 people that run the world. Anybody who wants to go into politics, they're all fucking puppets, okay? There are 150 and they're all men that run the world - period, full stop. They control most of the important assets, they control the money flows. And these are not the tech entrepreneurs. Now they are going to get rolled over the next five to ten years by the people that are really underneath pulling the strings. And when you get behind the curtain and see how that world works, what you realize is, it is unfairly set up for them and their progeny. Now, I'm not going to say that that's something that we can rip apart. But first order of business is, I want to break through and be at that table. That's the first order of business.” | Chamath Palihapitiya | 2017 |
| Salvador Allende | “We are faced with forces that operate in the shadows, without a flag, with powerful weapons, positioned in the most varied places of influence....The aggression of the large capitalist companies aims to prevent the emancipation of the people. It represents a direct attack against the economic interests of the workers....We are facing a true frontal conflict between large corporations and states. Their fundamental decisions - political, economic and military - seem to be interfered with by global organizations that do not depend on any state and that, in the sum of their activities, do not respond to or are supervised by any Parliament, by any institution representing the collective interest. In a word, it is the entire political structure of the world that is being undermined.” | Salvador Allende | December 1972 |
| Edward Bernays | “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country... In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons... who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” | Edward Bernays | 1928 |
| Bureaucracy | “Having worked briefly in the Canadian bureaucracy, I have observed that bureaucratic debate where power is involved tends to favor paranoid or worst-case analyses, especially those that justify budget and bureaucratic growth. Today's bureaucratic paranoia has indeed been institutionalized by what has been popularized as Vice President Cheney's 1% doctrine:- Even if there is just a 1% of the unimaginable coming due, act as if it is a certainty. It's not about our analysis, as Cheney said, it's about our response. Justified or not, fact based or not, our response is what matters. As to evidence, the bar was set so low that the word itself almost didn't apply. If there was even a 1% chance of terrorists getting a weapon of mass destruction, the United States must act now as if it were a certainty. This doctrine is a license for untrammeled expansion of the secret deep state.” | Peter Dale Scott | |
| Conspiracy/Public attitudes | “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” | Woodrow Wilson | 1913 |
| Deep state/2017 Popularisation | “Though the deep state is sometimes discussed as a shadowy conspiracy, it helps to think of it instead as a political conflict between a nation’s leader and its governing institutions.” | 16 February 2017 | |
| Euan Grant | “I have the responsibility for increasing awareness of Russian, Russian speaking and Russian proxies organised crime links ith [sic.] these countries [sic.] “Deep States” nexus of political, senior bureaucracy, military and military industrial complex, big business and, of course, security and intelligence services. We prefer the term “ strategic organised crime” and believe it is not capable of being adequately deterred by conventional criminal justice procedures.” | Euan Grant | June 2018 |
| Andrew Marr | “A final lesson is that Westminster and the state are two very different things. The state includes the NHS, national science labs, networks of experts […] I now feel we should spend less time on the distracting national puppet show and more time thinking about what I might delicately call the deeper sources of authority.” | Andrew Marr | 14 August 2021 |
| Malcolm Muggeridge | “In the eyes of posterity it will inevitably seem that, in safeguarding our freedom, we destroyed it. The vast clandestine apparatus we built up to prove our enemies' resources and intentions only served in the end to confuse our own purposes; that practice of deceiving others for the good of the state led infallibly to our deceiving ourselves; and that vast army of clandestine personnel built up to execute these purposes were soon caught up in the web of their own sick fantasies, with disastrous consequences for them and us.” | Malcolm Muggeridge | May 1966 |
| Peggy Noonan | “I have come to wonder if we don’t have what amounts to a deep state within the outer state in the U.S. — a deep state consisting of our intelligence and security agencies, which are so vast and far-flung in their efforts that they themselves don’t fully know who’s in charge and what everyone else is doing.” | Peggy Noonan | 28 October 2013 |
| Michael Parenti | “When change threatens to rule, then the rules are changed.” | Michael Parenti | |
| Vivek Ramaswamy | “I have a dream that the people we elect to run the government will be the ones who actually run the government.” | Vivek Ramaswamy | |
| Theodore Roosevelt | “Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.” | Theodore Roosevelt | |
| Leo Tolstoy | “When he entered, Prince Andrew, his eyes drooping contemptuously (with that peculiar expression of polite weariness which plainly says, "If it were not my duty I would not talk to you for a moment"), was listening to an old Russian general with decorations, who stood very erect, almost on tiptoe, with a soldier's obsequious expression on his purple face, reporting something. "Very well, then, be so good as to wait," said Prince Andrew to the general, in Russian, speaking with the French intonation he affected when he wished to speak contemptuously, and noticing Boris, Prince Andrew, paying no more heed to the general who ran after him imploring him to hear something more, nodded and turned to him with a cheerful smile. | Leo Tolstoy | 1869 |
| US/Deep state | “I join with those who assess the decay of the so-called Pax Americana into ever widening arms build-ups and military violence, in the light of the very similar decay a century ago of the so-called Pax Brittanica. We need to rescind policies that are as visibly detrimental to America and the world today as they were to Britain then. The problem is that Amnerican institutions are again in the grip of collective mania, as they were in the Palmer raids of 1919 and the McCarthy persecutions of the early 1950s. People outside government must work for a redirection of the U.S. government away from mania and illegality, like the awakening that ends the McCarthy era. But to regain control of politics, Americans must learn to understand and cope with the dark forces of the deep state. America, I try to suggest at the end [of The American Deep State] has like Britain far more to contribute to the world than violent power.” | Peter Dale Scott | 2015 |
Party Member
| Politician | Born | Description |
|---|---|---|
| Walter Veltroni | 3 July 1955 | Italian politician. His candidacy in the 2008 general elections obtained 33.17% of the votes, but failed to take the government. |
Related Documents
| Title | Type | Publication date | Author(s) | Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Document:5 July Seminar; Potential guest list for discussion | spooky seminar invitation list | 26 February 2016 | Integrity Initiative | Seminar with a mix of media, academics and lots of spooks |
| Document:American War Machine | book introduction | 1 November 2010 | Peter Dale Scott | A precis of the entire book, an analysis of the hidden mechanisms behind the exercise of real power in the Western World. The book is a culmination and synthesis of all of the author's earlier work on 'Deep Events' and the 'Deep State. Together with the work of Ola Tunander on the same subjects, it is a highly recommended for anyone seeking more than superficial understanding of the predicament of 21st Century humanity. |
| Document:Anatomy of the Deep State | essay | 21 February 2014 | Mike Lofgren | An up to date analysis of the deep state in the US from a former insider who does not oppose the official narrative of 9-11. |
| Document:Bloggers Under Siege - Craig Murray Charged with Contempt of Court | blog post | 27 April 2020 | Ludwig De Braeckeleer | From Lockerbie to the Russia Hoax, Craig Murray has of course upset people in high-places, including some who work for Intelligence Agencies. |
| Document:Counter-Intelligence: Spying Deters Democracy | interview | 7 July 2014 | Scott Noble Kim Petersen | |
| Document:Democratic State v Deep State | essay | 1 January 2008 | Ola Tunander | An excellent introduction to deep politics. By clarifying the real role of the Secret Intelligence Services and the policy agenda they under firm control in most Western 'Democracies' (especially the UKUSA nations), it demonstrates the irrelevance of the party-political masquerade. |
| Document:Fifty Years of the Deep State | book | 22 November 2013 | Mark Gorton | A detailed overview of the modern US deep state which names names, the most prominent of which, George H. W. Bush, is exposed as the kingpin of the US Deep state and probable a key mover behind the 9/11 plot. |
| Document:Obama’s Humanitarianism as Window-Dressing for the US “Deep State” Agenda - The Case of Syria | article | 18 June 2013 | Elizabeth Woodworth | |
| Document:The Deep State and 9/11 | article | 11 June 2008 | Peter Dale Scott | |
| Document:The Spectacle of The False Flag | book | 1 March 2015 | Eric Wilson | |
| Document:The Terror Attacks in France. The Broader Geopolitical Implications | interview | 10 January 2015 | Umberto Pascali | Interview with Umberto Pascali – For Voice of the People, TV Sonce, Skipje, Macedonia |
| Document:Transnationalised Repression Parafascism and the US | article | September 1986 | Peter Dale Scott |
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References
- ↑ A Wordnado of Words in 2013, New York Times, December 21, 2013. Grant Barrett
- ↑ The 'Deep State' Confronts the Accountability Revolution, 2012
- ↑ "A Shadow Government Controls America", Reader Supported News, February 22, 2014. Mike Lofgren
- ↑ Blind Turk Is Going to Jail To Find Freedom, He Says, The first New York Times article to mention the "deep state", from 1997
- ↑ The "Deep State" behind U.S. democracy - Voltaire Nework 6 April 2011
- ↑ http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/944478-for-we-are-opposed-around-the-world-by-a-monolithic
- ↑ http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/162688-since-i-entered-politics-i-have-chiefly-had-men-s-views
- ↑ http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/I_am_a_most_unhappy_man._I_have_unwittingly_ruined_my_country._A_great_industrial_nation_is_controll/371973/
- ↑ http://books.google.com/books?id=KS-6XrdalGkC&pg=PA331&lpg=PA331&dq=%22For+some+time+I+have+been+disturbed+by+the+way+the+CIA+has+been+diverted+from+its+original+assignment.+It+has+become+an+operational+and+at+times+a+policy-making+arm+of+the+government....+I+never+had+any+thought+that+when+I+set+up+the+CIA+that+it+would+be+injected+into+peacetime+cloak+and+dagger+operations.%22+-&source=bl&ots=1iNfcSxPBy&sig=yAePSCsM75Vc8NeZE0b6TbCzYIY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=w_sBVJmyHITxgwSnkIHQCg&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA
- ↑ https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/162686-behind-the-ostensible-government-sits-enthroned-an-invisible-government-owing
- ↑ The Supranational Deep State, 2 hour radio show
- ↑ Document:Fifty Years of the Deep State
- ↑ Document:Collateral Damage 911
- ↑ a b Document:The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld
