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'''Telegram''' is a [[social medium]] and instant messaging (IM) platform. Founded by the [[Russian]] brothers [[Nikolai|Nikolai Durov]] and [[Pavel Durov]], who created it after the feds of Russia took over their first social media project, [[Vkontakte]].
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'''Telegram''' is a [[social medium]] and instant messaging (IM) platform. Founded by the [[Russian]] brothers [[Nikolai|Nikolai Durov]] and [[Pavel Durov]], who created it after the feds of Russia took over their first social media project, [[VKontakte]].
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[[File:Telegram-Germany.png|right|thumb|360px|[[The establishment]] in Germany dislikes Telegram, as a spot of resistance, very much. Focusing on threats of violence and "hate" (which are no doubt to be found there). The screenshot by the Austrian television channel [[Auf1TV]] dates December 10th and is based on an insider message received shortly before by [[Eva Herman]] and [[Andres Popp]]. The German government plans a media campaign, or even wants to restrict access to the platform (banning from app stores). A few days later the media campaign started.<ref>https://wtvbam.com/2021/12/14/politician-says-germany-should-ban-telegram-unless-it-tackles-extremist-content/</ref><ref>https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/telegram-wie-sich-der-hass-im-netz-stoppen-laesst-17684199.html</ref><ref>https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/telegram-was-die-politik-gegen-die-gefaehrliche-chat-app-unternehmen-kann-a-7245e6fd-b057-41b9-9b50-69095458cd54</ref><ref>https://www.basicthinking.de/blog/2021/12/14/telegram-verbieten/</ref><ref>https://www.welt.de/politik/video235653508/Corona-Proteste-Bundesregierung-will-gegen-Social-Media-Plattform-Telegram-vorgehen.html</ref><ref>https://www.gmx.net/magazine/digital/deutsche-politiker-verbot-messengerdienstes-telegram-36433880</ref>]]
 
  
 
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The company was initially supported by founding CEO Pavel Durov's personal funds after the sale of his stake in VK. After that it collected $1.7 billion from investors such as Kleiner Perkins, Sequoia Capital, and Benchmark.  In March 2024, Telegram sold an additional $330 million in bonds, making it more of a [[corporation]].<ref>https://www.reuters.com/technology/telegram-secures-330-million-bond-sales-2024-03-18/</ref>
 
The company was initially supported by founding CEO Pavel Durov's personal funds after the sale of his stake in VK. After that it collected $1.7 billion from investors such as Kleiner Perkins, Sequoia Capital, and Benchmark.  In March 2024, Telegram sold an additional $330 million in bonds, making it more of a [[corporation]].<ref>https://www.reuters.com/technology/telegram-secures-330-million-bond-sales-2024-03-18/</ref>
  
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===2019 Puerto Rico riots ===
 
===2019 Puerto Rico riots ===
 
Telegram was the main subject surrounding the [[2019 Puerto Rico riots]] that ended up in the resignation of then-Governor [[Ricardo Rosselló]]. Hundreds of pages of a group chat between Rosselló and members of his staff were leaked. The messages were considered vulgar, racist, and homophobic, with members of the chat discussing how they would use the media to target potential political opponents.<ref>https://periodismoinvestigativo.com/2019/07/the-889-pages-of-the-telegram-chat-between-rossello-nevares-and-his-closest-aides/</ref>
 
Telegram was the main subject surrounding the [[2019 Puerto Rico riots]] that ended up in the resignation of then-Governor [[Ricardo Rosselló]]. Hundreds of pages of a group chat between Rosselló and members of his staff were leaked. The messages were considered vulgar, racist, and homophobic, with members of the chat discussing how they would use the media to target potential political opponents.<ref>https://periodismoinvestigativo.com/2019/07/the-889-pages-of-the-telegram-chat-between-rossello-nevares-and-his-closest-aides/</ref>
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[[File:Telegram-Germany.png|right|thumb|360px|[[The establishment]] in Germany dislikes Telegram, as a spot of resistance, very much. Focusing on threats of violence and "hate" (which are no doubt to be found there). The screenshot by the Austrian television channel [[Auf1TV]] dates December 10th 2021 and is based on an insider message received shortly before by [[Eva Herman]] and [[Andreas Popp]]. The German government plans a media campaign, or even wants to restrict access to the platform (banning from app stores). A few days later the media campaign started.<ref>https://wtvbam.com/2021/12/14/politician-says-germany-should-ban-telegram-unless-it-tackles-extremist-content/</ref><ref>https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/telegram-wie-sich-der-hass-im-netz-stoppen-laesst-17684199.html</ref><ref>https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/telegram-was-die-politik-gegen-die-gefaehrliche-chat-app-unternehmen-kann-a-7245e6fd-b057-41b9-9b50-69095458cd54</ref><ref>https://www.basicthinking.de/blog/2021/12/14/telegram-verbieten/</ref><ref>https://www.welt.de/politik/video235653508/Corona-Proteste-Bundesregierung-will-gegen-Social-Media-Plattform-Telegram-vorgehen.html</ref><ref>https://www.gmx.net/magazine/digital/deutsche-politiker-verbot-messengerdienstes-telegram-36433880</ref>]]
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In Germany, during and in the aftermath of [[Corona]]-related protests, Telegram came into the headlines for not cooperating enough with law enforcement.<ref>https://taz.de/Querdenker-Proteste-auf-Telegram/!5818216/</ref><ref>https://www.cicero.de/querdenker-telegram-faeser-messenger-sachsen-kretschmer</ref><ref>https://www.bka.de/DE/Presse/Listenseite_Pressemitteilungen/2022/Presse2022/220126_PM_Telegram.html</ref> In early 2022 the [[Germany/Ministry/Interior|Federal Ministry of the Interior]] wanted to intensify pressure on Telegram after threats against politicians and others were not processed and deleted.<ref>https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/gefahr-telegram-was-kann-die-politik-dagegen-tun-100.html</ref><ref>https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/apps/telegram-innenministerin-nancy-faeser-droht-mit-abschaltung-a-782c176b-37b3-4bf3-aaff-5855ca4af4c6</ref> The Interior Ministry received an e-mail address from [[Google]] in February [[2022]] to which the company leadership finally replied.<ref>https://www.rnd.de/politik/telegram-bundesinnenministerium-stellt-kontakt-zu-plattform-her-GKMJOCSP7ZFGHIOD5TGAKFENRM.html</ref> By mid 2022 {{ccm}} reports complained that Telegram only reliably works together with government authorities with respect to [[child abuse material]] and '[[terrorism]]'.<ref>https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/apps/telegram-gibt-nutzerdaten-an-das-bundeskriminalamt-a-0e4d3fcb-8081-4b87-b062-db412bbc294b</ref><ref>https://www.chip.de/news/Telegram-Daten-werden-nicht-an-Behoerden-gegeben-Nun-droht-wohl-Geldstrafe_184876463.html</ref> In September 2022 Telegram asked it's German users how to proceed in the matter.<ref>https://www.heise.de/news/Telegram-und-die-BKA-Umfrage-Es-gibt-gesetzliche-Regelungen-dazu-7248203.html</ref> Reports from August 2024 indicate that law enforcement authorities still think of the cooperation as difficult.<ref>https://www.heise.de/news/Telegram-Zusammenarbeit-mit-deutschen-Behoerden-variiert-stark-9853047.html</ref>
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==Telegram on Wikispooks==
 
==Telegram on Wikispooks==

Revision as of 23:49, 24 September 2024

Telegram is a social media service.

Telegram-icon.png
Website.png https://telegram.org/   WikiquoteRdf-entity.pngRdf-icon.png
Started: 14 August 2013
Founders: Nikolai Durov, Pavel Durov

Constitutes: Social medium,  Alt Tech

Telegram is a social medium and instant messaging (IM) platform. Founded by the Russian brothers Nikolai Durov and Pavel Durov, who created it after the feds of Russia took over their first social media project, VKontakte.

Funding

The company was initially supported by founding CEO Pavel Durov's personal funds after the sale of his stake in VK. After that it collected $1.7 billion from investors such as Kleiner Perkins, Sequoia Capital, and Benchmark. In March 2024, Telegram sold an additional $330 million in bonds, making it more of a corporation.[1]

Ads

In 2017, in an attempt to monetize Telegram, the company used crypto to to start a native cryptocurrency "Gram" and earn money from users.[2] Telegram has stated that the company will never serve advertisements in private chats. They reversed that policy in 2021.[3]

Enemy image

Due to Telegram’s privacy reputation, along with its calls for free speech, the site has appeared in ccm for promotion of illegal child porn, murder and arms smuggling, in particular in enemy image countries so to speak, such as Iran, Russia and Turkey.[4][5][6]

2019 Puerto Rico riots

Telegram was the main subject surrounding the 2019 Puerto Rico riots that ended up in the resignation of then-Governor Ricardo Rosselló. Hundreds of pages of a group chat between Rosselló and members of his staff were leaked. The messages were considered vulgar, racist, and homophobic, with members of the chat discussing how they would use the media to target potential political opponents.[7]

Germany

The establishment in Germany dislikes Telegram, as a spot of resistance, very much. Focusing on threats of violence and "hate" (which are no doubt to be found there). The screenshot by the Austrian television channel Auf1TV dates December 10th 2021 and is based on an insider message received shortly before by Eva Herman and Andreas Popp. The German government plans a media campaign, or even wants to restrict access to the platform (banning from app stores). A few days later the media campaign started.[8][9][10][11][12][13]

In Germany, during and in the aftermath of Corona-related protests, Telegram came into the headlines for not cooperating enough with law enforcement.[14][15][16] In early 2022 the Federal Ministry of the Interior wanted to intensify pressure on Telegram after threats against politicians and others were not processed and deleted.[17][18] The Interior Ministry received an e-mail address from Google in February 2022 to which the company leadership finally replied.[19] By mid 2022 commercially-controlled media reports complained that Telegram only reliably works together with government authorities with respect to child abuse material and 'terrorism'.[20][21] In September 2022 Telegram asked it's German users how to proceed in the matter.[22] Reports from August 2024 indicate that law enforcement authorities still think of the cooperation as difficult.[23]

Videos


Telegram Hands Over User Data to German Police - Mental Outlaw


Telegram on Wikispooks

 Has telegramDescription
'Somebitchtoldme'https://t.me/somebitchiknowUS based researcher
'Open Hands'https://t.me/openhands2022Hacking group which published documents of David Barnea
Anonyme Citoyenhttps://t.me/s/AnonymeCitoyenTelegram channel that posts videos of protests around the world. Started during the Yellow Vest movement.
Apoluthttps://t.me/s/apolutGerman-language independent media
Russel Bentleyhttps://t.me/TXDPRAmerican who went to Ukraine in 2014 to fight for the separatists in Donbas
Maxime Bernierhttps://t.me/MaximeBernierMaverick politician; former MP and Minister; Leader of the People's Party of Canada, campaigning for COVID-19/Resistance.
Big League Politicshttps://t.me/bigleaguepoliticsBig League Politics is a politically independent news website, reporting from a Pro-Trump point of view.
Andriy Biletskyhttps://t.me/BiletskyAndriyAzov leader
Adrien Bocquethttps://t.me/adrienbocquetAid worker who went to Ukraine and says he observed war crimes committed by the Azov battalion
Shahid Bolsenhttps://t.me/MiddleNationChannel
CIAhttps://t.me/s/SecurelyContactingCIAThe most high profile of the US intelligence agencies, a covert agent of foreign policy. Funded by a 'black budget' derived from the global drug trade, the CIA is experienced at assassination, blackmail, instigating coups and other such covert deep state actions. Its scrutiny in the early 1970s however led to the development of more secure bases for the most sensitive deep state operations.
Tucker Carlsonhttps://t.me/TuckerCarlsonOfficialAmerican journalist and TV personality. Against COVID, but with a connection to the CIA and its operation in Nicaragua.
Daily Exposehttps://t.me/dailyexpose"Misinformation" website based in Great Britain.
James Delingpolehttps://t.me/joinchat/TD0MUHDH3tfVEa7pBritish COVID-19 Dissident journalist
Die Linkehttps://t.me/dielinkeLeft wing populist party in Germany.
Vladimir Dzhabarovhttps://t.me/senatorDzhabarovRussian politician and spook.
Encyclopedia Dramaticahttps://t.me/encyclopedia dramatica"Wikipedia's evil twin"
Everipediahttps://t.me/everipediaAn online encyclopaedia which uses blockchain.
Cassandra Fairbankshttps://t.me/CassandraFairbanksAmerican journalist; reported on Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning.
James Fetzerhttps://t.me/JimFetzerNewsDeep politics researcher who was convicted to pay $450,000 for defamation for his work on Sandy Hook.
Viviane Fischerhttps://t.me/Viviane FischerDissident lawyer who works with the Corona Investigative Committee
Joaquin Floreshttps://t.me/NewResistanceGeopolitical and social analyst based in Belgrade, Serbia.
Fort Russhttps://t.me/fort russ newsNamed as an outlet of "Fake News" by PropOrNot.
Reiner Fuellmichhttps://t.me/ReinerFuellmichEnglishDissident lawyer who was involved with the Corona Investigative Committee, now accused of theft.
Nick Fuenteshttps://t.me/nickjfuentesAmerican conservative activist, his supporters are known as Groypers
Matt Gaetzhttps://t.me/MattGaetzOfficialCongressman for Florida since 2017, described as an ally of former president Donald Trump.
Geopolitics & Empirehttps://t.me/GeopoliticsAndEmpirePodcast censored by Western corporate/governments for Covid-19 coverage and other deep state subjects.
Marjorie Taylor Greenehttps://t.me/RealMarjorieGreeneRepublican politician from Georgia.
Jeremy R. Hammondhttps://t.me/jrhchannelRecipient of the Project Censored 2010 Award for Outstanding Investigative Journalism.
Health Freedom For Humanityhttps://t.me/HealthFreedomForHumanityAmerican group of health professionals; who advocate for Health Freedom.
Taylor Hudakhttps://t.me/taylorhudakDissident journalist
IceAgeFarmerhttps://t.me/iceagefarmerCalifornia based researcher with an interest in the manipulation of the global food supply, the coming global solar minimum, to the globalist plan to "reset the table" and transform global food systems.
Intel Slavahttps://t.me/s/intelslava
Jerm Warfarehttps://t.me/jermwarfareLong-format interviews on a number of subjects with a number of personalities, often dissidents in their field or independent analysts.
Cristina Martín Jiménezhttps://t.me/cristinamartinjimenezescritoraSpanish writer and researcher with an interest in the Bilderberg club
Craig Kellyhttps://t.me/craigkellyAustralian dissident MP; COVID-19/Resistance.
Pierre Koryhttps://t.me/PierreKoryFLCCCofficialFounding member of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance. Promoter of ivermectin.
Patrick Lancasterhttps://t.me/s/patricklancasternewstodayFormer US Navy sailor living in Donbass who covered the war since the beginning.
Alina Lipphttps://t.me/neuesausrusslandGerman independent journalist and former Green Party politician living in eastern Ukraine’s Donbass
Gonzalo Lirahttps://t.me/realCRPChilean–American novelist and film director residing in the Ukraine who was arrested twice by the SBU.
Alan MacLeodhttps://t.me/alanmacleodStaff writer at Mintpress, contributed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting and the Grayzone
Giorgia Melonihttps://t.me/s/giorgiameloniufficiale
Lee Merritthttps://t.me/FreedomDoc1Spinal Surgeon with a military background
Robin Monottihttps://t.me/robinmgOne of the most prominent COVID-19/Dissidents in the UK and the world, especially through his Telegram channel
Neon Nettlehttps://t.me/neonnettleA media website; anti-globalist in nature.
Newsmaxhttps://t.me/gatewaypunditofficialA conservative American news and opinion website
Christiane Northruphttps://t.me/drchristianenorthrupAmerican doctor; smeared hard during COVID.
Oracle Filmshttps://t.me/OracleFilmsAnti establishment filmmaking
Vasily Prozorovhttps://t.me/ukr leaks engEx-employee of the SBU who defected to Russia. Assassinated with car bomb in 2024.
Russia Todayhttps://t.me/rtintlA global TV channel backed by the Russian government. Allows Western dissidents on air and some deep politics to be discussed. Putting a positive spin on the government, but not too bad coverage of Russia either.
... further results


 

Documents sourced from Telegram

TitleTypeSubject(s)Publication dateAuthor(s)
Document:The Case Reiner Fuellmich - my statement!Wikispooks PageReiner Fuellmich26 September 2022Simon Goddek
Intel Slava - assessment of the Donbass situation end 2021TextWW3
War party
Donbas		Intel Slava
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References

  1. ↑ https://www.reuters.com/technology/telegram-secures-330-million-bond-sales-2024-03-18/
  2. ↑ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ucUeKg_NiR8RxNAonb8Q55jZha03WC0O/view
  3. ↑ https://ads.telegram.org/getting-started
  4. ↑ https://thediplomat.com/2024/05/can-taiwan-block-telegram/
  5. ↑ https://m.economictimes.com/tech/technology/zero-tolerance-for-sexual-abuse-content-committed-to-removing-it-telegram-youtube/articleshow/104244921.cms
  6. ↑ https://www.wired.com/story/how-telegram-became-anti-facebook/
  7. ↑ https://periodismoinvestigativo.com/2019/07/the-889-pages-of-the-telegram-chat-between-rossello-nevares-and-his-closest-aides/
  8. ↑ https://wtvbam.com/2021/12/14/politician-says-germany-should-ban-telegram-unless-it-tackles-extremist-content/
  9. ↑ https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/telegram-wie-sich-der-hass-im-netz-stoppen-laesst-17684199.html
  10. ↑ https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/telegram-was-die-politik-gegen-die-gefaehrliche-chat-app-unternehmen-kann-a-7245e6fd-b057-41b9-9b50-69095458cd54
  11. ↑ https://www.basicthinking.de/blog/2021/12/14/telegram-verbieten/
  12. ↑ https://www.welt.de/politik/video235653508/Corona-Proteste-Bundesregierung-will-gegen-Social-Media-Plattform-Telegram-vorgehen.html
  13. ↑ https://www.gmx.net/magazine/digital/deutsche-politiker-verbot-messengerdienstes-telegram-36433880
  14. ↑ https://taz.de/Querdenker-Proteste-auf-Telegram/!5818216/
  15. ↑ https://www.cicero.de/querdenker-telegram-faeser-messenger-sachsen-kretschmer
  16. ↑ https://www.bka.de/DE/Presse/Listenseite_Pressemitteilungen/2022/Presse2022/220126_PM_Telegram.html
  17. ↑ https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/gefahr-telegram-was-kann-die-politik-dagegen-tun-100.html
  18. ↑ https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/apps/telegram-innenministerin-nancy-faeser-droht-mit-abschaltung-a-782c176b-37b3-4bf3-aaff-5855ca4af4c6
  19. ↑ https://www.rnd.de/politik/telegram-bundesinnenministerium-stellt-kontakt-zu-plattform-her-GKMJOCSP7ZFGHIOD5TGAKFENRM.html
  20. ↑ https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/apps/telegram-gibt-nutzerdaten-an-das-bundeskriminalamt-a-0e4d3fcb-8081-4b87-b062-db412bbc294b
  21. ↑ https://www.chip.de/news/Telegram-Daten-werden-nicht-an-Behoerden-gegeben-Nun-droht-wohl-Geldstrafe_184876463.html
  22. ↑ https://www.heise.de/news/Telegram-und-die-BKA-Umfrage-Es-gibt-gesetzliche-Regelungen-dazu-7248203.html
  23. ↑ https://www.heise.de/news/Telegram-Zusammenarbeit-mit-deutschen-Behoerden-variiert-stark-9853047.html
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