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| − | + | The '''Afghanistan 2021 withdrawal''' was agreed on 29 February 2020,<ref>''[https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf "Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (which is not recognised by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban) and the United States of America"]''</ref> planned for the [[20th anniversary of 9/11]] and was completed before midnight on 30 August 2021, when Major-General Chris Donahue was the last American soldier to leave Kabul, and [[US]]–led [[NATO]] troops ended 20 years of occupation in [[Afghanistan]].<ref>''[https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-major-general-chris-donahue-the-last-american-soldier-to-leave-afghanistan-in-c-17.html "Who Is Major General Chris Donahue? The Last American Soldier To Leave Afghanistan In C-17"]''</ref> | |
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| − | as a state and is known as the Taliban) and the United States of America"]''</ref> planned for the [[20th anniversary of 9/11]] and | ||
==What's happening?== | ==What's happening?== | ||
===Afghanistan=== | ===Afghanistan=== | ||
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The [[Taliban]] took control by mid-August and its co-founder [[Abdul Ghani Baradar]] returned from exile in [[Qatar]].<ref>''[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/16/middleeast/taliban-control-afghanistan-explained-intl-hnk/index.html "Who are the Taliban and how did they take control of Afghanistan so swiftly?"]''</ref> | The [[Taliban]] took control by mid-August and its co-founder [[Abdul Ghani Baradar]] returned from exile in [[Qatar]].<ref>''[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/16/middleeast/taliban-control-afghanistan-explained-intl-hnk/index.html "Who are the Taliban and how did they take control of Afghanistan so swiftly?"]''</ref> | ||
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Most of [[Congress]] condemns, two congressmen ([[Peter Meijer]] and [[Seth Moulton]]) flew secretly there to get a perspective on the situation.<ref>https://www.9and10news.com/2021/08/25/michigan-massachusetts-congressmen-took-secret-trip-to-afghanistan/</ref><ref>https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/2-congressmen-including-michigan-rep-peter-meijer-flew-unannounced-to-afghanistan</ref> | Most of [[Congress]] condemns, two congressmen ([[Peter Meijer]] and [[Seth Moulton]]) flew secretly there to get a perspective on the situation.<ref>https://www.9and10news.com/2021/08/25/michigan-massachusetts-congressmen-took-secret-trip-to-afghanistan/</ref><ref>https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/2-congressmen-including-michigan-rep-peter-meijer-flew-unannounced-to-afghanistan</ref> | ||
| − | + | [[File:Iran-Hummer-2021.jpg|410px|right|thumb|Some Hummer with different setups in Iran.<ref>http://archive.today/2021.09.14-185744/https://twitter.com/KianSharifi/status/1433038861903532034</ref><ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan-spotted-iran-report</ref>]] | |
Some in favour include [[Matt Gaetz]], [[Rand Paul]] and [[Donald Trump]]. | Some in favour include [[Matt Gaetz]], [[Rand Paul]] and [[Donald Trump]]. | ||
| − | [[CIA]] Director [[William Burns]] was sent to Kabul for a high level meeting | + | [[CIA]] Director [[William Burns]] was sent to Kabul for a high level meeting on 23 August 2021.<ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cia-chief-met-secretly-taliban-leader-monday</ref><ref>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghanistan-cia-director-william-burns-met-taliban-leadership/ar-AANlH2G</ref><ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/world/asia/cia-taliban-william-burns-afghanistan.html</ref> Topics that were probably discussed: |
| − | *extension of the evacuation deadline set by the [[Taliban]] for | + | *extension of the evacuation deadline set by the [[Taliban]] for 31 August, or assurances of safe passage for foreigners that remain thereafter |
| − | *handing back of some military and intelligence equipment,<ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-captures-us-military-biometric-devices</ref><ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/quantifying-staggering-costs-us-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan</ref><ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20200915105125/https://www.cbp.gov/frontline/frontline-november-aerostats#:~:text=Each%20TARS%20fully-outfitted%20aerostat,in%20the%20air%20by%20helium.</ref><ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20200725051751/https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/history/ptds.html</ref> to prevent other state actors having a closer look at the technology (not unlike the [ | + | *handing back of some military and intelligence equipment,<ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-captures-us-military-biometric-devices</ref><ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/quantifying-staggering-costs-us-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan</ref><ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20200915105125/https://www.cbp.gov/frontline/frontline-november-aerostats#:~:text=Each%20TARS%20fully-outfitted%20aerostat,in%20the%20air%20by%20helium.</ref><ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20200725051751/https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/history/ptds.html</ref> to prevent other state actors having a closer look at the technology (not unlike the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_MIAS Stinger buy back program] of the [[1980s]])<ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/03/07/cia-falters-in-recovery-of-missiles/73a9a4d7-2952-4077-9746-46bd2e5b81ca/</ref><ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20201028055427/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2001/10/stingers-stingers-who-s-got-the-stingers.html</ref><ref>https://erenow.net/ww/ghost-wars-the-secret-history-of-the-cia-Afghanistan-and-bin-Laden/20.php</ref> |
*handing back of data | *handing back of data | ||
[[Tom Luongo]] is of the opinion that the withdrawal is chaotic by design, leaving Afghanistan with a huge number of military rifles and warfighting equipment in a region that has been unstable due to foreign interventions for the last decades. <ref>https://soundcloud.com/unlimited-hangout/afghanistan-chaos-and-what-comes-next</ref> | [[Tom Luongo]] is of the opinion that the withdrawal is chaotic by design, leaving Afghanistan with a huge number of military rifles and warfighting equipment in a region that has been unstable due to foreign interventions for the last decades. <ref>https://soundcloud.com/unlimited-hangout/afghanistan-chaos-and-what-comes-next</ref> | ||
| − | Other writers, such as [[Roger Simon]], highlight the fact that the democratic establishment around [[Biden]] and the [[Clintons]] | + | The United States most likely was not in a financial position to bring back all/most equipment of substantial volume and weight, like armored vehicles. But those could of course have been blown up and destroyed, along with all other equipment that has now changed hands. |
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| + | Other writers, such as [[Roger Simon]], highlight the fact that the democratic establishment around [[Biden]] and the [[Clintons]], have aided China's interests on a number of occasions.<ref>https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/hillary-clintons-china-problem-15763</ref><ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20210913152301/https://chinawatchcanada.blogspot.com/2019/09/hillarys-e-mails-all-sent-to-chinese.html</ref><ref>https://sputniknews.com/20210812/blackmail-sex-tapes-and-more-hannity-asks-why-no-arrests-made-in-hunter-biden-laptop-scandal-1083586225.html</ref><ref>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-deals-china-military-documentary</ref><ref>https://nypost.com/article/hunter-biden-china-timeline-business-ties/</ref> | ||
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==Terror threat== | ==Terror threat== | ||
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On 26 August 2021, a [[British]] minister warned of an "imminent, highly lethal" terror attack at Kabul's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Karzai_International_Airport Hamid Karzai International Airport] within hours:{{QB|Armed Forces minister [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Heappey James Heappey] said there were "very credible" reports of a "severe" threat in the capital. | On 26 August 2021, a [[British]] minister warned of an "imminent, highly lethal" terror attack at Kabul's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamid_Karzai_International_Airport Hamid Karzai International Airport] within hours:{{QB|Armed Forces minister [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Heappey James Heappey] said there were "very credible" reports of a "severe" threat in the capital. | ||
Latest revision as of 08:03, 20 December 2021
 Maj.-Gen. Chris Donahue, last US soldier to leave before midnight on 30 August 2021 | |
| Date | 29 February 2020 - 30 August 2021 |
|---|---|
| Location | Afghanistan |
| Perpetrators | USA, UK, NATO |
| Description | The end of the US–led NATO occupation of Afghanistan |
The Afghanistan 2021 withdrawal was agreed on 29 February 2020,[1] planned for the 20th anniversary of 9/11 and was completed before midnight on 30 August 2021, when Major-General Chris Donahue was the last American soldier to leave Kabul, and US–led NATO troops ended 20 years of occupation in Afghanistan.[2]
Contents
What's happening?
Afghanistan
The Taliban took control by mid-August and its co-founder Abdul Ghani Baradar returned from exile in Qatar.[3]
USA
Joe Biden initiated the chaotic withdrawal.
Most of Congress condemns, two congressmen (Peter Meijer and Seth Moulton) flew secretly there to get a perspective on the situation.[4][5]
Some in favour include Matt Gaetz, Rand Paul and Donald Trump.
CIA Director William Burns was sent to Kabul for a high level meeting on 23 August 2021.[8][9][10] Topics that were probably discussed:
- extension of the evacuation deadline set by the Taliban for 31 August, or assurances of safe passage for foreigners that remain thereafter
- handing back of some military and intelligence equipment,[11][12][13][14] to prevent other state actors having a closer look at the technology (not unlike the Stinger buy back program of the 1980s)[15][16][17]
- handing back of data
Tom Luongo is of the opinion that the withdrawal is chaotic by design, leaving Afghanistan with a huge number of military rifles and warfighting equipment in a region that has been unstable due to foreign interventions for the last decades. [18]
The United States most likely was not in a financial position to bring back all/most equipment of substantial volume and weight, like armored vehicles. But those could of course have been blown up and destroyed, along with all other equipment that has now changed hands.
Other writers, such as Roger Simon, highlight the fact that the democratic establishment around Biden and the Clintons, have aided China's interests on a number of occasions.[19][20][21][22][23]
| Stop Pretending You Care About Afghanistan / Overwritten with Dack Rouleau |
“I have believed for some time—only underscored by our extraordinarily rapid and ill-conceived evacuation of Afghanistan, leaving behind not only Bagram but enough U.S. weaponry to make the Taliban’s army nearly equivalent to Italy’s, not to mention putting our advanced military technology in the hands of the Chinese and the Russians—that a large percentage of our Democratic Party leadership, as well as a tragically significant percentage of the GOP, have long believed the Chinese regime is winning the battle between China and America for global hegemony.
They are, therefore, overtly or covertly, consciously or subconsciously, throwing in with the Chinese side for their own economic advantage, and, to a lesser extent, their survival, though the two intersect.”
Roger Simon (12 September 2021) [24]
Britain
UK/Defence Secretary Ben Wallace says that Al-Qaeda will re-enter Afghanistan. Johnny Mercer said the UK had "chosen defeat", describing the lack of "political will" as "shameful", "sad", "humiliating for the British army", and above all a "tragedy for the Afghan people".[25]
Tom Tugendhat and Rory Stewart condemned the withdrawal.
As part of the Official opposition narrative, Labour Party Shadow Foreign Secretary Lisa Nandy also opposes the withdrawal.[26]
On 18 August, UK Parliament was recalled. All mainstream newspapers condemned Boris Johnson.[27] Johnson wants to negotiate with the Taliban.
“What I want to assure people is that our political and diplomatic efforts to find a solution for Afghanistan, working with the Taliban, of course if necessary, will go on.”
Boris Johnson (20 August 2021) [28]
Evacuation from Afghanistan
- Full article: Evacuation from Afghanistan
- Full article: Evacuation from Afghanistan
Lots of countries evacuated their citizens in the largest airlift in history.
The British embassy failed to destroy sensitive documents.[29]
Terror threat
On 26 August 2021, a British minister warned of an "imminent, highly lethal" terror attack at Kabul's Hamid Karzai International Airport within hours:
Armed Forces minister James Heappey said there were "very credible" reports of a "severe" threat in the capital.
The Foreign Office last night issued new guidance telling anyone near the airport to "move away to a safe location and await further advice".
It comes amid a race to airlift thousands from Afghanistan before foreign troops depart.
The US has set a deadline of 31 August 2021 for the withdrawal of its troops, with President Joe Biden rejecting calls from Prime Minister Boris Johnson and other allies for an extension.
Mr Heappey did not give a date for the last UK evacuation flights, but said it was likely that UK and other foreign troops would have to leave before the last American airlifts.[30]
Terror blasts
- Full article: 2021 Kabul Airport attacks
- Full article: 2021 Kabul Airport attacks
At 4:15pm on 26 August 2021, the BBC's security correspondent Frank Gardner tweeted:
Kabul hospital reports 30 wounded from airport blast. 6 died on the way to hospital. Suspicion falling on ISIS-K as the culprits.[31]
The Australian newspaper reported:
US President Joe Biden said he stood ready to authorise further military force in Afghanistan and the US would “hunt down” the terrorist attackers that have left more than 100 dead, including 13 US marines, near Kabul airport.
In a televised address, he said the US would not be deterred by terrorism and the attacks would not shift the US from its timetable to complete the evacuation of US citizens by August 31.
“To those who carried out this attack, know this, we will not forgive, we will not forget, we will hunt you down and make you pay,” he said. “We have some reason to believe we know who they are, although we aren’t certain,” he added at a press conference at the White House.[32]
An example
| Page name | Description |
|---|---|
| Evacuation from Afghanistan | The evacuation of foreigners from Afghanistan, one of the largest airlifts in history |
Related Quotations
| Page | Quote | Author | Date |
|---|---|---|---|
| Evacuation from Afghanistan | “There's so many people arguing about the withdrawal from Afghanistan blaming Trump, blaming Biden. 'Oh we should withdraw like this'. No no there's only one way to withdraw it's called get the f*** out of Afghanistan. Okay people in the west need to stop with this colonial mindset thinking they can just invade countries kill people stay there for 20 years and then act like they are the victims at Kabul Airport.” | Richard Medhurst | 27 August 2021 |
| Peter Jennings (ASPI) | “The only person who thinks there is no chance of militarily victory in Afghanistan is Joe Biden” | Peter Jennings (ASPI) | June 2021 |
| Bob Seely | “I know we have a duty to the world, I mean we think to the world's poor and we should be doing what we can to help. We don't have a duty to quote 'save the world'.” | Bob Seely | 3 September 2021 |
Related Documents
| Title | Type | Publication date | Author(s) | Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Document:A warring nation, united against us | Letter | 19 August 2021 | Craig Murray | Craig Murray's letter to The Herald from prison in Edinburgh: "As with the previous three times when UK invasions were defeated in Afghanistan, we have united a warring nation in hatred of us." |
| Document:Afghanistan is not about you | Article | 19 August 2021 | Ella Whelan | Neocon MPs are concerned about the Afghanistan/2021 withdraw. The only problem is that they only care about themselves, and thereby show us the narcissism of Western intervention. |
| Document:Britain’s delusions that it could take on the Taliban alone are ludicrous - what are our empire-nostalgic MPs smoking? | Article | 19 August 2021 | Tom Fowdy | The UK Parliament was recalled for an emergency debate over the Afghanistan/2021 withdraw. While the BBC focused on the divide between the sides of the house with their face mask wearing, Parliament was united against the withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan. Most MPs are urging Boris Johnson to go back to Afghanistan, and take on the Taliban, alone if necessary. |
| Document:The 20-year war on Afghanistan was a mistake | Speech | 18 August 2021 | Zarah Sultana | Speaking outside Parliament on 18 August 2021, prior to the Afghanistan emergency debate, Zarah Sultana joined colleagues including Jeremy Corbyn to say: "The war on Afghanistan shows – once and for all – that the West cannot deliver liberal democracy at the barrel of a gun. This war – the first 'War on Terror' – must be Britain's last war of aggression." |
| Document:The bloody legacy of Bomber Blair | Article | 1 January 2022 | Alex Snowdon | "Petition for Tony Blair to have his 'Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter' rescinded" Such an honour rests upon expecting us to conveniently forget or ignore the enormous damage that Blair did. People are right to be angry. |
| Document:Twenty Years On, We’ve Learned Nothing From 9/11 | Speech | 17 September 2021 | Ron Paul | 20 years on from 9/11, Ron Paul says that The Establishment in the United States has learned nothing since the attacks. |
References
- ↑ "Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (which is not recognised by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban) and the United States of America"
- ↑ "Who Is Major General Chris Donahue? The Last American Soldier To Leave Afghanistan In C-17"
- ↑ "Who are the Taliban and how did they take control of Afghanistan so swiftly?"
- ↑ https://www.9and10news.com/2021/08/25/michigan-massachusetts-congressmen-took-secret-trip-to-afghanistan/
- ↑ https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/2-congressmen-including-michigan-rep-peter-meijer-flew-unannounced-to-afghanistan
- ↑ http://archive.today/2021.09.14-185744/https://twitter.com/KianSharifi/status/1433038861903532034
- ↑ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan-spotted-iran-report
- ↑ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cia-chief-met-secretly-taliban-leader-monday
- ↑ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghanistan-cia-director-william-burns-met-taliban-leadership/ar-AANlH2G
- ↑ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/24/world/asia/cia-taliban-william-burns-afghanistan.html
- ↑ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-captures-us-military-biometric-devices
- ↑ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/quantifying-staggering-costs-us-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan
- ↑ http://web.archive.org/web/20200915105125/https://www.cbp.gov/frontline/frontline-november-aerostats#:~:text=Each%20TARS%20fully-outfitted%20aerostat,in%20the%20air%20by%20helium.
- ↑ http://web.archive.org/web/20200725051751/https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/history/ptds.html
- ↑ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/03/07/cia-falters-in-recovery-of-missiles/73a9a4d7-2952-4077-9746-46bd2e5b81ca/
- ↑ http://web.archive.org/web/20201028055427/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2001/10/stingers-stingers-who-s-got-the-stingers.html
- ↑ https://erenow.net/ww/ghost-wars-the-secret-history-of-the-cia-Afghanistan-and-bin-Laden/20.php
- ↑ https://soundcloud.com/unlimited-hangout/afghanistan-chaos-and-what-comes-next
- ↑ https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/hillary-clintons-china-problem-15763
- ↑ http://web.archive.org/web/20210913152301/https://chinawatchcanada.blogspot.com/2019/09/hillarys-e-mails-all-sent-to-chinese.html
- ↑ https://sputniknews.com/20210812/blackmail-sex-tapes-and-more-hannity-asks-why-no-arrests-made-in-hunter-biden-laptop-scandal-1083586225.html
- ↑ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-deals-china-military-documentary
- ↑ https://nypost.com/article/hunter-biden-china-timeline-business-ties/
- ↑ https://www.theepochtimes.com/why-did-the-usa-hand-afghanistan-to-china_3989959.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge Epoch
- ↑ https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/13/betrayal-uk-and-us-politicians-slam-afghanistan-troop-withdrawals-as-taliban-advance/
- ↑ https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/1424299893636714499?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet/
- ↑ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-58264267/
- ↑ https://www.rt.com/uk/532664-johnson-taliban-raab-kabul/ RT
- ↑ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58351938
- ↑ "Afghanistan: Attack could strike Kabul airport within hours, minister warns"
- ↑ "Kabul hospital reports 30 wounded from airport blast"
- ↑ "Kabul terror bombings kill at least 100, including 13 US marines"
