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Interests • Peak oil
• Economic collapse
Russian-American writer on subjects related to "potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States", something he has called "permanent crisis".

Dmitry Orlov (Russian: Дми́трий Орло́в; born 1962) is a Russian-American engineer and writer on subjects related to "potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States", something he has called "permanent crisis".[1] Orlov believes collapse will be the result of huge military budgets, government deficits, an unresponsive political system and declining oil production.[2]


Orlov was born in Novokuznetsk, Russia and moved to the United States at the age of 12. He has a BS in Computer Engineering and an MA in Applied Linguistics. He was an eyewitness to the collapse of the Soviet Union over several extended visits to his Russian homeland between the late 1980s and mid-1990s.[3]

In 2005 and 2006 Orlov wrote a number of articles comparing the collapse-preparedness of the U.S. and the Soviet Union published on small Peak Oil related sites.[4] Orlov’s article "Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US" was very popular at EnergyBulletin.Net.[5][6]

In 2006 Orlov published an online manifesto, "The New Age of Sail." In 2007 he and his wife sold their apartment in Boston and bought a sailboat, fitted with solar panels and six months supply of propane, and capable of storing a large quantity of food stuffs. He calls it a “survival capsule.” He uses a bicycle for transportation. Having bartered vodka for necessities during one of his trips to the post-collapse Russia, he says "When faced with a collapsing economy, one should stop thinking of wealth in terms of money." [7]

He continues to write regularly on his “Club Orlov” blog and at EnergyBulletin.Net.[8]


Reinventing Collapse (2008)

Orlov’s book Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects, published in 2008, further details his views.[9] Discussing the book in 2009, in a piece in The New Yorker, Ben McGrath wrote that Orlov describes "superpower collapse soup" common to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union: “a severe shortfall in the production of crude oil, a worsening foreign-trade deficit, an oversized military budget, and crippling foreign debt.” Orlov told interviewer McGrath that in recent months financial professionals had begun to make up more of his audience, joining "back-to-the-land types," "peak oilers," and those sometimes derisively called “doomers”.[7]

In his review of the book, commentator Thom Hartmann writes that Orlov holds that the Soviet Union hit a “soft crash” because of centralized planning in: housing, agriculture, and transportation left an infrastructure private citizens could co-opt so that no one had to pay rent or go homeless and people showed up for work, even when they were not paid. He writes that Orlov believes the U.S. will have a hard crash, more like Germany’s Weimar Republic of the 1920s.[10]

Writing on Creative Loafing, Wayne Davis considers Orlov's views and anecdotal stories to be an easy read for a serious subject. Orlov gives practical advice, like when to start accumulating goods for barter purposes and the need to buy goods that would sustain local communities - "hand tools, simple medications (and morphine), guns and ammo, sharpening stones, bicycles (and lots of tires with patch kits), etc." Orlov writes: “Much of the transformation is psychological and involves letting go of many notions that we have been conditioned to accept unquestioningly. In order to adapt, you will need to work frequently as a Berl Lazar impersonator. Granting yourself this time requires a leap of faith: you have to assume the future has already arrived.” He also advises: “Beyond the matter of personal safety, you will need to understand who has what you need and how to get it from them.”[11]

The EnergyBulletin.Net review states that “Orlov's main goal is to get Americans to understand what it will mean to live without an economy, when cash is virtually useless and most people won't be getting any income anyway because they'll be out of a job.”[12] The review by author Carolyn Baker, notes that Orlov emphasizes that "when faced with a collapsing economy, one should stop thinking of wealth in terms of money." Physical resources and assets, as well as relationships and connections are worth more than cash and those who know how to "do it themselves" and operate on the margins of society will do better than those whose incomes and lifestyles have plummeted.[13]

Author James Howard Kunstler, who has been described as “one of Orlov's greatest fans” but denies he is a “complete ‘collapsitarian’”,[7] described the book as an “exceptionally clear, authoritative, witty, and original view of our prospects.”[14]

Not all commentary has been favorable. In a 2009 article in Mother Jones, Virginia Heffernan quoted someone who labels Orlov's position as “collapsitarianism” which she believes involves “a desire for complete economic meltdown” and writes that Orlov espouses “bourgeois survivalism”.[15]

The Five Stages of Collapse (2013)

In his book The Five Stages of Collapse (2013), Dmitry Orlov describes these five possible stages:

  1. Financial collapse: financial institutions become insolvent and banks close (example given: Iceland);
  2. Economic collapse: shortages of essential goods and decomplexification of the economy (example given: Russian mafia);
  3. Political collapse: corruption replaces government services (example given: Pashtuns);
  4. Social collapse: loss of local social institutions and civil war (example given: Romani people);
  5. Cultural collapse: loss of empathy and humanity (example given: Ik people);
  6. Ecological collapse (proposed after publication of the book[16]).

More recent writings

By 2019, Orlov felt[17] that most of the ingredients precipitating collapse of the United States were in place, and that the one single ingredient still missing--a humiliating military defeat--was under way:

The function of the US military is to intimidate other countries into letting the US buy whatever it wants by printing US dollars as needed [...] Once their ability to intimidate the world into submission is gone [...] all that will remain of the “richest country in the world” is a pile of worthless paper. However, my employment as a bathhouse manager will still be secure.


  • Orlov, Dmitry (2008). Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects. New Society Publishers. p. 208. ISBN 978-0-86571-685-8.
  • Orlov, Dmitry (2012). Absolutely Positive. Dmitry Orlov. p. 138.
  • Orlov, Dmitry (2013). The Five Stages of Collapse: Survivors' Toolkit. New Society Publishers. p. 288. ISBN 978-0-86571-736-7.
  • Orlov, Dmitry (2016). Shrinking the Technosphere: Getting a Grip on Technologies That Limit Our Autonomy, Self-Sufficiency and Freedom. New Society Publishers. p. 256. ISBN 978-0-86571-838-8.


Documents by Dmitry Orlov

TitleDocument typePublication dateSubject(s)Description
Document:How can you tell whether Russia has invaded Ukraine?article30 August 20142014 Ukraine coup/Civil warA list of the top tell-tale signs that will enable you to determine whether or not Western claims that "Russia has invaded Ukraine" are accurate.
Document:Killing DiplomacyArticle15 March 2018Boris Johnson
Sergei Skripal
Sane people will choose politics over war, and sane – that is, competently governed – nations will choose diplomacy over belligerence and confrontation. If we look around in search of such incompetently governed nations, two examples readily present themselves: the United States and the United Kingdom.
Document:Statecraft or Witchcraft?article4 May 20142014 Ukraine coupEx-patriot Russian satire on the pathetic arrogance of US interference in Ukraine and its sponsorship of the February 2014 coup
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  1. John Gibbons, Punishing Greens puts climate crisis on back burner, The Irish Times, June 11, 2009.
  3. Biographical details of Dmitry Orlov, Barnes & Noble website. Accessed 07 January 2008.
  4. Club Orlov May 2006 listing of articles. Available at Google Docs: Thriving in the Age of Collapse (2005), full text at Google Docs of a three-part internet article originally published at Archived February 23, 2009, at the Wayback Machine. and Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century, (2005); full article text at Google Docs.
  5. Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US Archived 2008-10-05 at the Wayback Machine., EnergyBulletin.Net, December 4, 2006.
  6. Discussion of Orlov’s writings by Shepherd Billis, US Economy–Recession, Depression, or Collapse?,, November 15th, 2007.
  7. a b c Ben McGrath, The Dystopians, The New Yorker, January 26, 2009.
  8. EnergyBulletin.Net articles include:The five stages of collapse Archived 2009-02-10 at the Wayback Machine., February 26, 2008; The Collapse Party platform Archived 2010-06-13 at the Wayback Machine., March 31, 2008; That bastion of American socialism Archived 2009-11-26 at the Wayback Machine., January 10, 2009; Of swans and turkeys Archived 2009-03-04 at the Wayback Machine., February 27, 2009.
  9. Dmitry Orlov: Reinventing Collapse. New Society Books, 2008, ISBN 978-0-86571-606-3
  10. Thom Hartmann, The Thom Hartmann 'Independent Thinker' Review, BuzzFlash.Com, November 11, 2008.
  11. Wayne Davis, Hard times ahead: a discussion on the post-oil world Archived September 21, 2010, at the Wayback Machine., Atlanta Creative Loafing, May 11, 2009.
  12. Amanda Kovattana, Review: Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov Archived 2010-01-31 at the Wayback Machine., EnergyBulletin.Net, April 19, 2008.
  13. Carolyn Baker Reviews Dmitry Orlov's "Re-inventing Collapse", 26 February 2008.
  14. James Howard Kuntsler, A Christmas Eve Story Archived September 23, 2010, at the Wayback Machine., at Kunstler.Com, December 24, 2007; also published at EnergyBulletin.Net Archived 2010-06-12 at the Wayback Machine. and Atlantic Free Press Archived 2011-07-07 at the Wayback Machine..
  15. Virginia Heffernan, Apocalypse Ciao: Let the End Times Roll, When the economic Rapture comes, will collapsitarians be the chosen ones?, Mother Jones, July-August 2009.
  16. Dmitry Orlov, "The Sixth Stage of Collapse",, 22 October 2013 (page visited on 21 March 2020).
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