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:::::The precedent for [[Wikispooks]] is [[Gaza War (2008–09)]], so [[Gaza War (2023–24)]] is better. [[Wikipedia]] might prefer Israel–Hamas War or 2nd Yom Kippur War but neither sits comfortably IMHO on WS.--[[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick Haseldine]] ([[User talk:Patrick Haseldine|talk]]) 22:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC) | :::::The precedent for [[Wikispooks]] is [[Gaza War (2008–09)]], so [[Gaza War (2023–24)]] is better. [[Wikipedia]] might prefer Israel–Hamas War or 2nd Yom Kippur War but neither sits comfortably IMHO on WS.--[[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick Haseldine]] ([[User talk:Patrick Haseldine|talk]]) 22:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
− | :::::: "Gaza War (2008-09)" ''is named after Wikipedia'' Pat.... previous arguments above still stand.[User:Jun|Jun, Administrator.]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 22:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC) | + | :::::: "Gaza War (2008-09)" ''is named after Wikipedia'' Pat.... previous arguments above still stand. [[User:Jun|Jun, Administrator.]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 22:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC) |
==Israel’s genocide in Palestine== | ==Israel’s genocide in Palestine== | ||
From [[Scotland]] to [[Ireland]], [[Germany]] to [[France]], [[Cuba]] to [[Yemen]], [[Spain]] to [[Poland]], [[Iran]] to [[Indonesia]], [[South Korea]] to [[Turkey]], [[Japan]] to [[South Africa]], [[Canada]] to the [[US]], and beyond, the people of the world are rising up in MASSIVE numbers to denounce [[Israel’s genocide in Palestine]] – see https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1725943486703165515 --[[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick Haseldine]] ([[User talk:Patrick Haseldine|talk]]) 00:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC) | From [[Scotland]] to [[Ireland]], [[Germany]] to [[France]], [[Cuba]] to [[Yemen]], [[Spain]] to [[Poland]], [[Iran]] to [[Indonesia]], [[South Korea]] to [[Turkey]], [[Japan]] to [[South Africa]], [[Canada]] to the [[US]], and beyond, the people of the world are rising up in MASSIVE numbers to denounce [[Israel’s genocide in Palestine]] – see https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1725943486703165515 --[[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick Haseldine]] ([[User talk:Patrick Haseldine|talk]]) 00:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 23:09, 1 January 2024
Genocide by Israel in Gaza
Is it time to revise the title of this article – see https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/friday-17-november-twenty-thousand-palestinians-believed-be-killed-israels-genocide-gaza ?--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 23:45, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've moved it to 2023 Gaza−Israel conflict for now. A permanent name to be decided, maybe something with Nakba 2.0?
Terje (talk) 02:39, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- If the genocide extends beyond 31 Dec 2023, maybe we should call it Gaza War (2023–24) like Gaza War (2008–09)?--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 10:34, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Let's move it to Gaza War (2023–24) (hoping that the genocide ends very soon)!--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 11:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Following this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war?oldformat=true#Requested_move_23_December_2023) discussion as our style guide - apart from personal opinion - still follows, the consensus, seems to be; either leave it as it is or change it to → Israel–Hamas war. "Gaza war" implies the war in Gaza to be taking place, which apart from the style guide arguments, could also imply a civil war within Gaza between e.g Fatah and HM. So. On social media, the only current other name that gained traction is 2nd Yom Kippur War. So I've changed it to that for now. Nakba 2.0 would imho - apart from the style guide - would imply a genocide after mass forced migration - which while partly true, would not mention 7 October itself, and therefore would not be honourable to Nakba Day itself. Let's just wait and not jump the gun as we need the traffic from users that still (yes, on SKYNET Iphone nonetheless) search for us and are not direct visitors. Let's just wait a while now until the world decides a name or the event significantly develops, as like with the Soviet–Afghan War we could change the 1980s Afghan war in now for example to include the Saur revolution and the Soviet and CIA' role in the civil coups ( cutting it up between the 1950-77 & 1978-1989 Jun, Administrator. (talk) 18:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- The precedent for Wikispooks is Gaza War (2008–09), so Gaza War (2023–24) is better. Wikipedia might prefer Israel–Hamas War or 2nd Yom Kippur War but neither sits comfortably IMHO on WS.--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- "Gaza War (2008-09)" is named after Wikipedia Pat.... previous arguments above still stand. Jun, Administrator. (talk) 22:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Israel’s genocide in Palestine
From Scotland to Ireland, Germany to France, Cuba to Yemen, Spain to Poland, Iran to Indonesia, South Korea to Turkey, Japan to South Africa, Canada to the US, and beyond, the people of the world are rising up in MASSIVE numbers to denounce Israel’s genocide in Palestine – see https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1725943486703165515 --Patrick Haseldine (talk) 00:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)