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| − | |description=The ''supranational'' deep state is a recognition that the deep state knows no borders, that flags assigned to different political entities are no more meaningful than those political structures are autonomous. In the | + | |description=The ''supranational'' deep state is a recognition that the deep state knows no borders, that flags assigned to different political entities are no more meaningful than those political structures are autonomous. In the 21<sup>st</sup> century, it is a mistake to see deep state groups as fundamentally separate. While still subject to internecine fueds and rivalry, deep state factions work so closely together and have such a common interests that it is a mistake to seem them as truly separate. |
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| − | + | for intelligence agencies which are more supranational than anything else | |
| − | The name "deep state" suggests an immediate parallel with [[nation state]], which is not altogether misleading, at least historically, since it is hard for more than one such group to effectively control the key organs of a national government. However, a clear correspondence cannot exist since deep state groups, | + | --> |
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| + | The name "'''[[deep state]]'''" suggests an immediate parallel with [[nation state]], which is not altogether misleading, at least historically, since it is hard for more than one such group to effectively control the key organs of a national government. However, a clear correspondence cannot exist since deep state groups are more loosely defined, interlocking networks which lacking formal definition. The '''''supra''national''' angle is a reflection that the global deep state collaboration eclipses individual national governments and employs a range of methods to manipulate them. | ||
==Origins== | ==Origins== | ||
| − | [[Peter Dale Scott]] suggests that a key turning point in the development of the ''international'' deep state was the success of the [[House Select Committee on Assassinations]]. Although partially compromised, their scrutiny of the [[CIA]] following the high profile [[assassinations]] carried out in the [[1960s]] (e.g. of [[JFK Assassination|JFK]], [[RFK Assassination|RFK]], [[MLK Assassination|MLK]], [[Malcolm X/Assassination|Malcolm X]]) was effective enough to introduce monitoring that | + | [[Peter Dale Scott]] suggests that a key turning point in the development of the ''international'' deep state was the success of the [[House Select Committee on Assassinations]]. Although partially compromised, their scrutiny of the [[CIA]] following the high profile [[assassinations]] carried out in the [[1960s]] (e.g. of [[JFK Assassination|JFK]], [[RFK Assassination|RFK]], [[MLK Assassination|MLK]], [[Malcolm X/Assassination|Malcolm X]]) was effective enough to introduce monitoring that threatened the CIA's ability to carry out off-the-books black operations. In response, operations were offshored to foreign [[intelligence agencies]], most notably through the [[Safari Club]]: |
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|text=The complex milieu of [[Khashoggi]], the [[BCCI]], and the [[Safari Club]] can be characterized as a ''supranational deep state'', whose organic links to the [[CIA]] may have helped consolidate it. It is clear however that decisions taken at this level by the Safari Club and BCCI were in no way guided by the political determinations of those elected to power in Washington. | |text=The complex milieu of [[Khashoggi]], the [[BCCI]], and the [[Safari Club]] can be characterized as a ''supranational deep state'', whose organic links to the [[CIA]] may have helped consolidate it. It is clear however that decisions taken at this level by the Safari Club and BCCI were in no way guided by the political determinations of those elected to power in Washington. | ||
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==Cover-up== | ==Cover-up== | ||
| − | The {{ccm}}, more or less an [[Deep state control|agent of deep state forces]], remains dedicated to the obscuring the key facts that | + | The {{ccm}}, more or less an [[Corporate media/Deep state control|agent of deep state forces]], remains dedicated to the obscuring the key facts that |
# Most if not all of the so-called "[[democracies]]" are in fact no such thing, the public [[politicians]] are in fact puppets of [[deep politician]]s | # Most if not all of the so-called "[[democracies]]" are in fact no such thing, the public [[politicians]] are in fact puppets of [[deep politician]]s | ||
# These deep politicians have relationships, rivalries and alliances which pay no heed to political borders. | # These deep politicians have relationships, rivalries and alliances which pay no heed to political borders. | ||
| − | ''The business of | + | ''The business of 21<sup>st</sup> century deep politics knows no political boundaries.'' |
==Exposure== | ==Exposure== | ||
| − | In an unguarded moment, [[ | + | In an unguarded moment, Prince [[Turki bin Faisal al-Saud]] remarked to [[Georgetown University]] alumni: “In 1976, after the [[Watergate]] matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by [[Congress]]. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the [[Safari Club]]. The Safari Club included [[France]], [[Egypt]], [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Morocco]] and [[Iran]].”<ref>https://theintercept.com/2015/11/02/the-deepest-state-the-safari-club-allen-dulles-and-the-devils-chessboard/</ref> |
==''Supra''national nature== | ==''Supra''national nature== | ||
| − | Just as "[[globalisation]]" has created ''multi-''national corporations which operate with a significant degree of independence from individual nation states, so too for deep state groups. [[Peter Dale Scott]] | + | Just as "[[globalisation]]" has created ''multi-''national corporations which operate with a significant degree of independence from individual nation states, so too for deep state groups. [[Peter Dale Scott]] refered in 2014 to "A ''Supranational'' Deep State", noting how their international integration effectively allows deep states to evade even the limited control national governments had in the early 20<sup>th</sup> century.<ref name="PDS2014">Document:The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld</ref> This is a ''de facto'' reversal the public power relationship, a process being codified into international law by the wealth of new supranational treaties being brought in under the banner of [[free trade]]. |
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==References== | ==References== | ||
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| The supranational deep state is a recognition that the deep state knows no borders, that flags assigned to different political entities are no more meaningful than those political structures are autonomous. In the 21st century, it is a mistake to see deep state groups as fundamentally separate. While still subject to internecine fueds and rivalry, deep state factions work so closely together and have such a common interests that it is a mistake to seem them as truly separate. | |
- Full article: Supranational Deep State
- Full article: Supranational Deep State
The name "deep state" suggests an immediate parallel with nation state, which is not altogether misleading, at least historically, since it is hard for more than one such group to effectively control the key organs of a national government. However, a clear correspondence cannot exist since deep state groups are more loosely defined, interlocking networks which lacking formal definition. The supranational angle is a reflection that the global deep state collaboration eclipses individual national governments and employs a range of methods to manipulate them.
Origins
Peter Dale Scott suggests that a key turning point in the development of the international deep state was the success of the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Although partially compromised, their scrutiny of the CIA following the high profile assassinations carried out in the 1960s (e.g. of JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X) was effective enough to introduce monitoring that threatened the CIA's ability to carry out off-the-books black operations. In response, operations were offshored to foreign intelligence agencies, most notably through the Safari Club:
“The complex milieu of Khashoggi, the BCCI, and the Safari Club can be characterized as a supranational deep state, whose organic links to the CIA may have helped consolidate it. It is clear however that decisions taken at this level by the Safari Club and BCCI were in no way guided by the political determinations of those elected to power in Washington.”
Peter Dale Scott (2014) [1]
Emphasis added
Cover-up
The commercially-controlled media, more or less an agent of deep state forces, remains dedicated to the obscuring the key facts that
- Most if not all of the so-called "democracies" are in fact no such thing, the public politicians are in fact puppets of deep politicians
- These deep politicians have relationships, rivalries and alliances which pay no heed to political borders.
The business of 21st century deep politics knows no political boundaries.
Exposure
In an unguarded moment, Prince Turki bin Faisal al-Saud remarked to Georgetown University alumni: “In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco and Iran.”[2]
Supranational nature
Just as "globalisation" has created multi-national corporations which operate with a significant degree of independence from individual nation states, so too for deep state groups. Peter Dale Scott refered in 2014 to "A Supranational Deep State", noting how their international integration effectively allows deep states to evade even the limited control national governments had in the early 20th century.[3] This is a de facto reversal the public power relationship, a process being codified into international law by the wealth of new supranational treaties being brought in under the banner of free trade.
Related Document
| Title | Type | Publication date | Author(s) | Description |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Document:The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld | paper | 10 March 2014 | Peter Dale Scott | An recommended and highly referenced overview of the deep state in action centering on the complex milieu of Khashoggi, the BCCI, and the Safari Club. |
References
- ↑ Document:The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld
- ↑ https://theintercept.com/2015/11/02/the-deepest-state-the-safari-club-allen-dulles-and-the-devils-chessboard/
- ↑ Document:The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld
