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'''Andreas Karl Strassmeir''' a.k.a. "'''Andy The German'''" (born May 17, 1959)<ref>[http://www.comeandtakeit.com/feds-okc.html Undercover: The Howe Revelations]</ref> is a German national suspected of involvement in the 1995 [[Oklahoma City bombing]].  
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'''Andreas Karl Straßmeir''' a.k.a. ''''Andy The German'''' or ''''Mr. Red''''<ref name=deadlysecrets/> is a German national suspected of involvement in the 1995 [[Oklahoma City bombing]]. He has denied the charge. Suspicious evidence includes his friendship with [[Tim McVeigh]]<ref>http://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/bomb6.htm</ref>, his reportedly having talked about blowing up federal buildings<ref name=mj>http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/07/search-john-doe-no-2-story-feds-never-told-about-oklahoma-city-bombing</ref>, multiple claims that he worked for the [[FBI]]<ref>http://news.intelwire.com/2007/04/jd-cash-strassmeir-worked-for-fbi.html</ref><ref>http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2006_03_30_exclusives.html</ref> and his irregular departure from the US. {{CCM}} has shown very little interest in him. His German Wikipedia page was removed in 2016.<ref name="wikide"/>
  
 
==Background==
 
==Background==
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Andreas Strassmeir is the son of [[Günter Strassmeir]] who was Chief of Staff to German Chancellor [[Helmut Kohl]]. He joined the German army, and after 7 years had become an lieutenant. He left the German Army in 1988.<ref>[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2013/fall/THE-LAST-WORD The Last Word: Return of the German]</ref> He was a member of a charismatic Christian church in Berlin. By his own account, he lived for a time in a kibbutz in [[Israel]].{{cn}}
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Andreas Straßmeir was born on May 17, 1959<ref name=deadlysecrets>[http://www.comeandtakeit.com/feds-okc.html Undercover: The Howe Revelations]</ref> "to a prominent family with political connections".<ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=k4L1Uy8y54wC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=G%C3%BCnter+Stra%C3%9Fmeir+helmut+kohl&source=bl&ots=TDRNBVRPym&sig=GFOlCYKz_KrbOOzHX8D37ptXIIk&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y</ref> He was the son of [[Günter Straßmeir]] who was Chief of Staff to [[German Chancellor]] [[Helmut Kohl]]. His Grandfather was also a co-founder of the [[Nazi Party]].<ref>http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-8720421.html</ref><ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=nywEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=andreas+strassmeir&source=bl&ots=mglf3ArR7K&sig=kk2taur910abjy381rTdWzDyF4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjmtrTC_9TfAhUPXa0KHeIdDjk4FBDoATAGegQIAxAB#v=onepage&q=andreas%20strassmeir&f=false</ref>
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==Career==
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Straßmeir joined the German army, and after 7 years<ref name=spiegel>http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-8720430.html</ref> had become an lieutenant in the Panzer Grenadiers.<ref name=deadlysecrets/> He left the German Army in 1988.<ref>[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2013/fall/THE-LAST-WORD The Last Word: Return of the German]</ref> He was a member of a charismatic [[Christian]] church in [[Berlin]]. By his own account, he lived for a time in a kibbutz in [[Israel]].{{cn}}
  
 
==Criminal status==
 
==Criminal status==
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Strassmeir moved to Houston in 1989. He may have been in the US illegally after visa violations. He drew the attention of the [[ATF]] and maybe other authorities, but his arrest was blocked by higher ups.<ref>http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/04/23/exclusive-oklahoma-city-bombing-breakthrough-part-2-of-2/</ref><ref>http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01/andy-strassmeir-and-mohamed-atta.html</ref>
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Straßmeir moved to Houston in 1989. He may have been in the US illegally after visa violations. He drew the attention of the [[ATF]] and maybe other authorities, but his arrest was blocked by higher ups.<ref>http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/04/23/exclusive-oklahoma-city-bombing-breakthrough-part-2-of-2/</ref><ref>http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01/andy-strassmeir-and-mohamed-atta.html</ref>
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He was arrested on February 28, 1992 and had his car impounded by Oklahoma State Highway Patrol but the car was quickly released, in spite of some confusion about the legal status of what had gone on.<ref name=deadlysecrets/>
  
 
==Oklahoma City bombing==
 
==Oklahoma City bombing==
 
{{FA|Oklahoma City bombing}}
 
{{FA|Oklahoma City bombing}}
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Strassmeir settled in a Christian community in [[Elohim City]], Arkansas in 1991.<ref name=con02>http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_04.htm</ref> He became their chief of security, where it has been suggested that the bomb plot originated.{{cn}} Andreas Strassmeir was friends with [[Tim McVeigh]] whom he met in 1992 at an arms fair in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Strassmeir has admitted selling McVeigh an old combat knife.<ref>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/documents/mcveigh/</ref><ref>http://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/news16.htm</ref>
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Straßmeir settled in a Christian community in [[Elohim City]], Arkansas in 1991.<ref name=con02>http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_04.htm</ref> He became their chief of security, where it has been suggested that the bomb plot originated.{{cn}} Andreas Straßmeir was friends with [[Tim McVeigh]] whom he met in 1992 at an arms fair in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Strassmeir has admitted selling McVeigh an old combat knife.<ref>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/documents/mcveigh/</ref><ref>http://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/news16.htm</ref> He does not deny that McVeigh phoned him a few days before the OKC bombing, but claims that he was out at the time, so he never spoke to McVeigh.<ref name=spiegel/>
  
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Strassmeir has been named as "John Doe #2".<ref name=con1>http://www.constitution.org/okc/jdt01-02.htm</ref>
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Strassmeir is one of many people who has been named as "John Doe #2".<ref name=con1>http://www.constitution.org/okc/jdt01-02.htm</ref>
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===Corporate Media===
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''[[Newsweek]]'' removed all references to Straßmeir in their reporting about the OKC bombing<ref>https://www.reddirtreport.com/prairie-opinions/noble-lie-continues</ref> and the {{ccm}}in general have had little to say about him. This is interesting in light of multiple claims that he worked for the [[FBI]].<ref>http://news.intelwire.com/2007/04/jd-cash-strassmeir-worked-for-fbi.html</ref><ref>http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2006_03_30_exclusives.html</ref>
  
 
===Flight from USA===
 
===Flight from USA===
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Four months after the bombing, Strassmeier slipped out of the country. A 1997 FBI investigation noted that (ex-)[[CIA]] [[pilot]] [[Dave Hollaway]] "flew STRASSMIRE [sic.] back to Berlin, Germany after the Oklahoma City Bombing".<ref name=fd302>http://bobmccarty.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NOTICE-OF-SUPPLEMENTATION-OF-RECORD-MOTION-TO-STRIKE-EXHIBIT-1-FBI-302-HOLLADAY-FLIES-STRASSMEIR-TO-GERMANY-AFTER-BOMBING-ECF.pdf</ref> Other writers have suggested that this was via [[Mexico]].<ref name=briley>http://web.archive.org/web/20051126071053/http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick17.htm</ref><ref>http://paksplace.com/okc.htm</ref><ref>[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2013/fall/THE-LAST-WORD The Last Word: Return of the German]</ref> He may also have had help from his attorney [[Kirk Lyons]].{{cn}}
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[[Robert Millar]] expelled Andreas Strassmeier from Elohim City soon after he became aware that the FBI was looking at Straßmeir for possible ties to McVeigh and the bombing.<ref>http://thislandpress.com/2012/04/15/whos-afraid-of-elohim-city/</ref> Four months after the bombing, Straßmeir slipped out of the country. A 1997 FBI investigation noted that (ex-)[[CIA]] [[pilot]] [[Dave Halloway]] "flew STRASSMIRE [sic.] back to Berlin, Germany after the Oklahoma City Bombing".<ref name=fd302>http://bobmccarty.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NOTICE-OF-SUPPLEMENTATION-OF-RECORD-MOTION-TO-STRIKE-EXHIBIT-1-FBI-302-HOLLADAY-FLIES-STRASSMEIR-TO-GERMANY-AFTER-BOMBING-ECF.pdf</ref> Other writers have suggested that this was via [[Mexico]].<ref name=briley>http://web.archive.org/web/20051126071053/http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick17.htm</ref><ref>http://paksplace.com/okc.htm</ref><ref>[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2013/fall/THE-LAST-WORD The Last Word: Return of the German]</ref> He may also have had help from his attorney [[Kirk Lyons]].{{cn}}
  
 
===Statements===
 
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Strassmeir once stated that "I've never worked for any US government agency, and I've not been involved in any intelligence operation since my discharge from the German army in 1988".<ref name=con1/> Strassmeir also once claimed never to have been in Kansas, but then admitted that he had once driven through the state.<ref name=con02/> Asked to state where he was when the bombing happened, he said he was at work near Elohim City.<ref>http://www.thehullthread.com/oklahoma.htm</ref>
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Straßmeir once stated that "I've never worked for any US government agency, and I've not been involved in any intelligence operation since my discharge from the German army in 1988".<ref name=con1/> Straßmeir also once claimed never to have been in Kansas, but then admitted that he had once driven through the state.<ref name=con02/> Asked to state where he was when the bombing happened, he said he was at work near Elohim City.<ref>http://www.thehullthread.com/oklahoma.htm</ref>
  
 
==Continuing legal investigation==
 
==Continuing legal investigation==
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On 19 April 1997, Bundestag deputy [[Ulla Jelpke]] was asked in parliament about the possible "complicity of the German citizen Andreas Strassmeir" in the 1995 Oklahoma bombing.<ref>http://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/13/071/1307182.asc</ref>
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On 19 April 1997, Bundestag deputy [[Ulla Jelpke]] asked in parliament about the possible "complicity of the German citizen Andreas Straßmeir" in the [[1995 Oklahoma bombing]].<ref>http://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/13/071/1307182.asc</ref> He was reportedly "questioned on the phone by the FBI".<ref name=mj/>
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==Later activities==
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In 1997 Straßmeir gave an interview to ''[[Der Spiegel]]'' in which he denied involvement in the OKC bombing. He stated that he left Oklahoma because it was "stressful" and was looking for a new start.
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==Exposure==
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His English [[Wikipedia]] page was created on 4 January 2019.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andreas_Strassmeir&dir=prev&action=history</ref><ref>http://archive.today/2021.01.03-015824/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Strassmeir</ref>
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==Cover-up==
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His German Wikipedia page was removed from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir on 13 January 2016.<ref name="wikide">https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Logbuch/delete&page=Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir</ref>
 
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Latest revision as of 02:04, 3 January 2021

3Person.png Andreas Straßmeir   ZoominfoRdf-entity.pngRdf-icon.png
(soldier, spook?, deep state operative?)
Andreas Strassmeir.jpg
BornAndreas Karl Straßmeir
17 May 1959
NationalityGerman
ParentsGünter Straßmeir
Son of Günter Straßmeir who was Chief of Staff to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. Suspected of involvement in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

Andreas Karl Straßmeir a.k.a. 'Andy The German' or 'Mr. Red'[1] is a German national suspected of involvement in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. He has denied the charge. Suspicious evidence includes his friendship with Tim McVeigh[2], his reportedly having talked about blowing up federal buildings[3], multiple claims that he worked for the FBI[4][5] and his irregular departure from the US. Commercially-controlled media has shown very little interest in him. His German Wikipedia page was removed in 2016.[6]

Background

Andreas Straßmeir was born on May 17, 1959[1] "to a prominent family with political connections".[7] He was the son of Günter Straßmeir who was Chief of Staff to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. His Grandfather was also a co-founder of the Nazi Party.[8][9]


Career

Straßmeir joined the German army, and after 7 years[10] had become an lieutenant in the Panzer Grenadiers.[1] He left the German Army in 1988.[11] He was a member of a charismatic Christian church in Berlin. By his own account, he lived for a time in a kibbutz in Israel.[citation needed]

Criminal status

Straßmeir moved to Houston in 1989. He may have been in the US illegally after visa violations. He drew the attention of the ATF and maybe other authorities, but his arrest was blocked by higher ups.[12][13]

He was arrested on February 28, 1992 and had his car impounded by Oklahoma State Highway Patrol but the car was quickly released, in spite of some confusion about the legal status of what had gone on.[1]

Oklahoma City bombing

Full article: Oklahoma City bombing

Straßmeir settled in a Christian community in Elohim City, Arkansas in 1991.[14] He became their chief of security, where it has been suggested that the bomb plot originated.[citation needed] Andreas Straßmeir was friends with Tim McVeigh whom he met in 1992 at an arms fair in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Strassmeir has admitted selling McVeigh an old combat knife.[15][16] He does not deny that McVeigh phoned him a few days before the OKC bombing, but claims that he was out at the time, so he never spoke to McVeigh.[10]

Strassmeir is one of many people who has been named as "John Doe #2".[17]

Corporate Media

Newsweek removed all references to Straßmeir in their reporting about the OKC bombing[18] and the commercially-controlled mediain general have had little to say about him. This is interesting in light of multiple claims that he worked for the FBI.[19][20]

Flight from USA

Robert Millar expelled Andreas Strassmeier from Elohim City soon after he became aware that the FBI was looking at Straßmeir for possible ties to McVeigh and the bombing.[21] Four months after the bombing, Straßmeir slipped out of the country. A 1997 FBI investigation noted that (ex-)CIA pilot Dave Halloway "flew STRASSMIRE [sic.] back to Berlin, Germany after the Oklahoma City Bombing".[22] Other writers have suggested that this was via Mexico.[23][24][25] He may also have had help from his attorney Kirk Lyons.[citation needed]

Statements

Straßmeir once stated that "I've never worked for any US government agency, and I've not been involved in any intelligence operation since my discharge from the German army in 1988".[17] Straßmeir also once claimed never to have been in Kansas, but then admitted that he had once driven through the state.[14] Asked to state where he was when the bombing happened, he said he was at work near Elohim City.[26]

Continuing legal investigation

On 19 April 1997, Bundestag deputy Ulla Jelpke asked in parliament about the possible "complicity of the German citizen Andreas Straßmeir" in the 1995 Oklahoma bombing.[27] He was reportedly "questioned on the phone by the FBI".[3]

Later activities

In 1997 Straßmeir gave an interview to Der Spiegel in which he denied involvement in the OKC bombing. He stated that he left Oklahoma because it was "stressful" and was looking for a new start.

Exposure

His English Wikipedia page was created on 4 January 2019.[28][29]

Cover-up

His German Wikipedia page was removed from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir on 13 January 2016.[6]


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References

  1. ↑ a b c d Undercover: The Howe Revelations
  2. ↑ http://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/bomb6.htm
  3. ↑ a b http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/07/search-john-doe-no-2-story-feds-never-told-about-oklahoma-city-bombing
  4. ↑ http://news.intelwire.com/2007/04/jd-cash-strassmeir-worked-for-fbi.html
  5. ↑ http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2006_03_30_exclusives.html
  6. ↑ a b https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Logbuch/delete&page=Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir
  7. ↑ https://books.google.com/books?id=k4L1Uy8y54wC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=G%C3%BCnter+Stra%C3%9Fmeir+helmut+kohl&source=bl&ots=TDRNBVRPym&sig=GFOlCYKz_KrbOOzHX8D37ptXIIk&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y
  8. ↑ http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-8720421.html
  9. ↑ https://books.google.com/books?id=nywEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=andreas+strassmeir&source=bl&ots=mglf3ArR7K&sig=kk2taur910abjy381rTdWzDyF4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjmtrTC_9TfAhUPXa0KHeIdDjk4FBDoATAGegQIAxAB#v=onepage&q=andreas%20strassmeir&f=false
  10. ↑ a b http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-8720430.html
  11. ↑ The Last Word: Return of the German
  12. ↑ http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/04/23/exclusive-oklahoma-city-bombing-breakthrough-part-2-of-2/
  13. ↑ http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2004/01/andy-strassmeir-and-mohamed-atta.html
  14. ↑ a b http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_04.htm
  15. ↑ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/documents/mcveigh/
  16. ↑ http://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/news16.htm
  17. ↑ a b http://www.constitution.org/okc/jdt01-02.htm
  18. ↑ https://www.reddirtreport.com/prairie-opinions/noble-lie-continues
  19. ↑ http://news.intelwire.com/2007/04/jd-cash-strassmeir-worked-for-fbi.html
  20. ↑ http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2006_03_30_exclusives.html
  21. ↑ http://thislandpress.com/2012/04/15/whos-afraid-of-elohim-city/
  22. ↑ http://bobmccarty.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NOTICE-OF-SUPPLEMENTATION-OF-RECORD-MOTION-TO-STRIKE-EXHIBIT-1-FBI-302-HOLLADAY-FLIES-STRASSMEIR-TO-GERMANY-AFTER-BOMBING-ECF.pdf
  23. ↑ http://web.archive.org/web/20051126071053/http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick17.htm
  24. ↑ http://paksplace.com/okc.htm
  25. ↑ The Last Word: Return of the German
  26. ↑ http://www.thehullthread.com/oklahoma.htm
  27. ↑ http://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/13/071/1307182.asc
  28. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andreas_Strassmeir&dir=prev&action=history
  29. ↑ http://archive.today/2021.01.03-015824/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Strassmeir
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