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− | The '''2023 Hawaii wildfires''' destroyed the city of Lāhainā on the island of Maui.<ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12394625/Oldest-house-Maui-razed-ground-deadly-wildfires-Baldwin-House-built-1834-Lahaina-played-host-members-Hawaiian-royal-family-city-capital.html</ref> [[Ryan Cristian]] of TLAV is investigating the story,<ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-12-23:5 Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let's Look At What We Can Prove...] (August 12, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thompson-Interview-8-14-23:c Shelby Thomson Interview - Locals Convinced Maui Fires Not Accident As Evidence Suggests Foul Play] (August 14, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-15-23:1 Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires & FDA Claims It Cannot Be Held Accountable For Misinfo] (August 16, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-17-23-1:b Maui Update: Land Grabs, 2030 Goals, Aluminum Dust & New Space Force DEW Unit Activated Last Week] (August 17, 2023)</ref> as well as some Youtubers.<ref>[[ | + | The '''2023 Hawaii wildfires''' destroyed the city of Lāhainā on the island of Maui.<ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12394625/Oldest-house-Maui-razed-ground-deadly-wildfires-Baldwin-House-built-1834-Lahaina-played-host-members-Hawaiian-royal-family-city-capital.html</ref> [[Ryan Cristian]] of TLAV is investigating the story,<ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-12-23:5 Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let's Look At What We Can Prove...] (August 12, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thompson-Interview-8-14-23:c Shelby Thomson Interview - Locals Convinced Maui Fires Not Accident As Evidence Suggests Foul Play] (August 14, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-15-23:1 Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires & FDA Claims It Cannot Be Held Accountable For Misinfo] (August 16, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-17-23-1:b Maui Update: Land Grabs, 2030 Goals, Aluminum Dust & New Space Force DEW Unit Activated Last Week] (August 17, 2023)</ref> as well as some Youtubers, like [[Eric West]] and [[Geoff Cygnus]].<ref>[[Hawaii Real Estate]] - https://www.youtube.com/@hawaiirealestateorg/videos</ref><ref>[[Geoff Cygnus]] - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1QMfDq7VDGOR7WRCcv1mew/videos</ref> The Hawaii Fire Department found an incendiary device on September 9th, possibly suggesting arson as a cause.<ref>https://spectrumlocalnews.com/hi/hawaii/top-stories/2023/08/10/hawaii-island-police-investigate-arson-as-cause-of-the-ka---wildfire</ref> Extreme winds were occurring that day. |
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== Official narrative == | == Official narrative == | ||
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In early August [[2023]], a series of wildfires broke out in the [[Hawaii|U.S. state of Hawaii]], predominantly on the island of Maui. The wind-driven fires prompted evacuations, caused widespread damage, and killed at least 80 people in the town of Lahaina. The proliferation of the wildfires was attributed to dry, gusty conditions created by a strong high-pressure area north of Hawaii and Hurricane Dora to the south. | In early August [[2023]], a series of wildfires broke out in the [[Hawaii|U.S. state of Hawaii]], predominantly on the island of Maui. The wind-driven fires prompted evacuations, caused widespread damage, and killed at least 80 people in the town of Lahaina. The proliferation of the wildfires was attributed to dry, gusty conditions created by a strong high-pressure area north of Hawaii and Hurricane Dora to the south. | ||
− | An emergency declaration was signed on August 8, | + | An emergency declaration was signed on August 8, authorizing several actions, including activation of the Hawaii National Guard, appropriate actions by the director of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency and the Administrator of Emergency Management, and the expenditure of state general revenue funds for relief of conditions created by the fires. By August 9, the state government of Hawaii issued a state of emergency for the entirety of the state. On August 10, U.S. president [[Joe Biden]] issued a federal major [[disaster]] declaration. |
As of August 11, the 2023 Hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in the United States since the Camp Fire of [[2018]], in which 85 people were confirmed killed. For the Lahaina fire alone, the [[Federal Emergency Management Agency]] (FEMA) and the Pacific Disaster Center (PDC) estimated that over 2,200 buildings had been destroyed, including many historic landmarks in Lahaina, and estimated the damage caused by the fire at approximately $5.52 billion.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOkhkGQTNg</ref> | As of August 11, the 2023 Hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in the United States since the Camp Fire of [[2018]], in which 85 people were confirmed killed. For the Lahaina fire alone, the [[Federal Emergency Management Agency]] (FEMA) and the Pacific Disaster Center (PDC) estimated that over 2,200 buildings had been destroyed, including many historic landmarks in Lahaina, and estimated the damage caused by the fire at approximately $5.52 billion.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOkhkGQTNg</ref> | ||
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+ | A lawsuit filed by the Maui government in late August against Hawaiian Electric Co. accuses them of being responsible for the fire.<ref>https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12759</ref><ref>https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/maui-v-heco-complaint-maui-circuit-court.pdf</ref><ref>https://citable.com/2023/08/maui-government-lawsuit-accuses-hawaiian-electric-industries-of-causing-lahaina-wildfires/</ref> | ||
== Concerns == | == Concerns == | ||
+ | Lahaina has some of the more expensive real estate in the US.<ref>http://archive.today/2023.08.21-202552/https://www.redfin.com/city/10924/HI/Lahaina/housing-market</ref> The police seems to have blocked exit routes which trapped many people.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jVDTfp7gFc Maui Police Blocked Escape Routed as told by FISH from Front Street Found ALIVE!] (Aug 19, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel</ref> The German version of [[Russia Today]] carried an article that focused on the speculation that [[electromagnetic weaponry]] was used to clear the area for the construction of a [[smart city]].<ref>https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ saved at [https://web.archive.org/web/20070703040420/https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ Archive.org] saved at [https://archive.li/bbXMc Archive.is]</ref> Local Youtubers have recorded burnt cars (in Lahaina Luna) that were standing on an empty lot, whose rims have melted away with no damage to surrounding buildings.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2WV-B26pA Maui D.E.W: Evidence of Direct Energy Weapon? Judge For Yourself..], Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0 MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?], Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDggKO9pIOg A closer look at several car fires, and how the intensity of the Lahaina fire varied by location.], Geoff Cygnus YT channel, Sep 1, 2023</ref> | ||
− | + | [[Zerohedge]] reports that the local administration attempts an information blackout and [[Governor of Hawaii]], [[Josh Green]], told locals not to listen to information from [[social media]] and "influencers".<ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hawaii-state-government-attempts-information-blackout-maui-fire-refuses-media-access</ref> He said: "doing reporting through social media is idiotic".<ref>https://en-volve.com/2023/08/20/hawaii-gov-josh-green-doing-reporting-through-social-media-is-idiotic/</ref> Media is not allowed to do on the ground reporting,<ref>https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-21-hawaii-state-government-attempts-information-blackout.html</ref> even locals who try to film are ordered away.<ref>at the end of the video, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0 MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?]</ref> Curtains are put up on the side of the road as to block the view on the disaster area.<ref>https://davidicke.com/2023/08/29/media-blackout-black-curtains-go-up-in-lahaina-blocking-view-of-ground-zero-investigation-clean-up/</ref><ref>https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2023/08/30/black-curtains-surrounding-the-site-of-maui-fires-suggests-media-blackout-from-learning-the-truth-n2627751</ref> | |
− | [[ | + | [[John Pelletier]], who was leading the area command that covers the strip at which the [[2017 Las Vegas shooting]] happened, was made Maui Chief of Police at the end of [[2021]].<ref>https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/08/14/who-is-john-pelletier-maui-chief-of-police/</ref> Pelletier has created a "hostile work environment" shortly after his start,<ref>https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/09/maui-police-commission-finds-complaints-against-new-chief-not-substantiated/</ref><ref>https://mauinow.com/2022/08/18/maui-police-commission-reviews-complaints-against-chief-and-executive-staff/</ref><ref>https://www.mauinews.com/news/local-news/2022/11/reports-shed-light-on-complaints-against-mpd-chief/</ref> which caused some people to retire early, or to consider doing so.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOetEX0tHU8 Former Maui Police officers speak out about toxic and hostile work environment], KITV 4, July 29, 2022</ref> |
[[Eric West]] in a video interview with survivors who have lost their home, hints at the fact that videos are getting removed from phones of local people.<ref>starting ca 08:05 - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6lNB6yilY Maui Lahaina Fire : Behind the Scenes with Real Survivors : Jeremy and Elisha Baldwin 4 Children] (Aug 22, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel </ref> | [[Eric West]] in a video interview with survivors who have lost their home, hints at the fact that videos are getting removed from phones of local people.<ref>starting ca 08:05 - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6lNB6yilY Maui Lahaina Fire : Behind the Scenes with Real Survivors : Jeremy and Elisha Baldwin 4 Children] (Aug 22, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel </ref> | ||
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+ | [[Shelby Hosana]] relates that emergency services workers were made to sign [[NDA]] agreements.<ref>https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/lahaina-maui-shelby-hosana/</ref><ref>https://www.bitchute.com/video/auNNcat7WTvl/</ref> | ||
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+ | ===Observations by locals=== | ||
+ | ====Geoff Cygnus==== | ||
+ | [[File:Car-Front Street-Hawaii.webp|right|thumb|300px|A car next to the ocean.<ref>[Things that melted during the Lahaina fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEw3iFvZmk], Aug 26, 2023</ref>]] | ||
+ | [[Geoff Cygnus]] lived on Hawaii but left when he started to be harassed for his reporting.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6fOndbumk Permanently leaving Maui Now the gloves can come off + how haters kept me safe while I was here], Sep 11, 2023</ref> In a video from the 19th September 2023 he observes the following:<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZnayPTe4c New details on the Lahaina fire. Unreleased footage and multiple side by side before and after comparisons.], September 19, 2023</ref> | ||
+ | *the less affluent areas in Lahaina city have burned (Lahaina Luna has survived), areas where there are often 15-20 people inhabiting a house - so the poor areas have been destroyed but the much richer Kaanapali Hillside and Launiupoko were not touched (also the area around the [[Safeway]] shopping center remains); | ||
+ | *when he moved to Hawaii he noticed many things (code violations) that could lead to catastrophic outcome in case of a fire; | ||
+ | *there were large piles of construction material for affordable housing stored behind these areas, a local told him that when these caught fire, it caused 100 feet flames, embers and sparks that were spreading to the residential area; | ||
+ | *the government there is inept and there is sort of a "club" that occupies it; | ||
+ | *there is no sense in the fence and in the harassment by the special police to everyone who stops on the bypass; | ||
+ | *the measures to control the population, forced to get permission slips to return to your house, were bizarre; | ||
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+ | ====Shelby Hosana==== | ||
+ | [[File:2023 Hawaii wildfires-The Hawaii State Department of Education.webp|right|thumb|500px|The Hawaii State Department of Education reports that about 2,000 children are unaccounted for, as of August 21, 2023.<ref>https://boe.hawaii.gov/Meetings/Notices/Meeting%20Material%20Library/GBM_08242023_Report%20on%20Report%20of%20the%20Superintendent.pdf</ref>]] | ||
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+ | [[Shelby Hosana]] makes the observation that the [[cars]] that have burned out at Front-Street all have their doors closed, indicating that the people did not get out and died inside, which seems implausible since there should be enough time to get out in when a regular fire approaches and move/sprint into the water nearby. In her view this is also the reason why the area has been closed off and only [[FEMA]] and [[National Guard]] are allowed in - to make documentation of facts impossible.<ref>[https://rumble.com/v3bbxdm-it-was-voluntary-manslaughter-part-1-of-our-interview-with-maui-resident-sh.html "It was Voluntary Manslaughter" | Part 1 of our Interview with Maui resident Shelby Thomson] The Homeless Left channel, starting ca. 10:00</ref> | ||
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+ | In an interview from the 8th of August 2023 she mentions the following:<ref>[https://rumble.com/v3g07bm-the-unjected-show-032-where-are-the-2000-missing-children.html The Unjected Show #032 | Where Are The 2,000 Missing Children?] The Unjected Show, 08 August 2023</ref> | ||
+ | *people who went in the disaster zone the day after said the streets were littered with corpses - a local told her that he in the first days pulled 300 people from the sea wall and streets when government forces were doing nothing, or instead started to build the fence first; | ||
+ | *the police was blocking every exit from Lahaina, no water in the fire hydrants; | ||
+ | *sirens are tested monthly and are also used for warn of wild fires, but remained silent on purpose (the official responsible is a fall guy, but later also an explanation was issued that they did not work that day), people only realized the fire is close when other's started screaming; | ||
+ | *the wind came from the mountain side that day (from inside the island) which is unusual and was blamed on a hurricane that was 700 miles out - this does not make sense, since it's position (the hurricane) would have caused winds from the sea and radar data indicates that clouds in between were undisturbed; | ||
+ | *the [[Hawaii/Governor|governor]], [[Josh Green]], reversed the Sunshine-Laws three weeks before the fire, which allows for public discussions of land use; | ||
+ | *3 million was spent to build the fence that blocks the view, this was a priority objective before anything else, now there is [[FBI]] every 100 yards and National Guard at every corner, but it took FEMA six days to show up - in the first week there was no government support, but authorities prevented Hawaii locals to bring supplies into Lahaina in the first days and the [[Coast Guard]] issued threats (that they will shoot) to boats that were searching for dead people and those who wanted to bring supplies - reasons for this were claims of asbestos (but government searches afterwards never wore masks) and (still) ongoing fires, she suspects that the real reason was that citizens should not see the high number of corpses in the burn zone; | ||
+ | *Josh Green already announced that not many body parts will be found - a reporter from Kentucky, [[Nick Sortor]], who asked the Mayor of Maui County, [[Richard Bissen]], questions about missing people was almost arrested and escorted out; | ||
+ | *during the event, cars malfunctioned: did not start and doors did not open, later people on the island had problems with their car batteries and electronic problems with their cars in general (she had malfunctions with her car as well); | ||
+ | *the military leases on [[Pearl Harbor]] signed by [[Roosevelt]] are running out; | ||
+ | *the morning of the fire military subs were spotted at sea; | ||
+ | *the military has a [[directed energy weapon]] installed on the island, some blue things seem to not have burnt, melted or have been scorched; | ||
+ | *she has received a video with one corpse in the middle of the road, no burn marks around him/her, half of the body is intact (so you can read the T-Shirt), the other half is completely burned; | ||
+ | *[[Soiltac]] dust suppressant is used because the remaining material may hold information on a molecular level how hot the fire was (she mentions car engines made of steel have melted); | ||
+ | *pilot logs are getting erased, 30 % are missing from the Air Traffic Control website (OGG); | ||
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+ | ====Eric West==== | ||
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+ | |caption= The Mystery of the Lahaina Pentecostal Church - Can YOU Explain? Never Before Seen Footage Maui Fire (October 26, 2023) | ||
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+ | }} | ||
+ | [[Eric West]] in a video from 26th September 2023 explains the following:<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFG8n3jsU6A Maui Fires Cover Up Story], September 26, 2023</ref> | ||
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+ | *[[Josh Green]] in a [[UN]] hearing did say that it was a 17 minute fire,<ref>Local2030 Coalition: Pushing key transitions and achieving the SDGs by 2030 (SDG Action Weekend, Acceleration Day, High Impact Initiatives), 17 Sep 2023, [https://media.un.org/en/asset/k1x/k1x8on96di "and the fires that came, they came to us in the form of a fire hurricane, winds were 74 miles per hour, on the tail end of a hurricane, and swept through our town Lahaina in 17 minutes"], ca 32:22 </ref> but the fire did burn a whole day long (he observed it burning until midnight when he was evacuated from his home); | ||
+ | *Josh Green speaks of [[climate change]] as the underlying cause for the fire, yet [[Maui County]] files a lawsuit against [[Hawaiian Electric Co.]] for not properly maintaining the electrical system;<ref>https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12759</ref> | ||
+ | *that day a (official) message went out that there is a brush fire which is 100% contained, giving every recipient in the area the feeling that there is nothing to worry about, the fire re-ignited and at that point went into the housing development; | ||
+ | *the sirens were not activated, an explanation was issued that the public is trained to think that the sirens are meant to warn of a tsunami and that would have caused them to flee to the inside of the island, but the EMS website still states that these are emergency sirens and people are supposed to tune in to their radios or cellphones to get information "to avoid danger" - the emergency manager later resigns due to health reasons; | ||
+ | *the power was out that day (early in the morning),<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hawaii_wildfires#Maui</ref> the explanation why people and traffic were kept redirected in Lahaina Town was that there are downed power lines, but it should have been possible to clear an exit until mid-day; | ||
+ | *cell signals were off since the morning, however the phones still could receive text messages, which continued for weeks (no cell signal but text messages were still incoming), a communication blackout for three weeks), there was no warning of the fire via text, there are entries in the FCC in which cell companies are asking to operate at a different frequency, so that certain frequencies came offline, which in his opinion caused the phones to no longer work properly; | ||
+ | *some trees (palm trees are very flammable) and in part the foliage have survived next to areas that have intensively burned - with temperatures so high that glass, aluminum and copper have melted (as shown in his drone video <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PSYNqZqAVs DAY AFTER FIRE FOOTAGE: 4K Drone Lahaina Maui Fire - Longest & Most Detailed Aerial View], Aug 21, 2023</ref>), some blue things have survived, cars have completely burned out and some of the metal melted away, yet there was very little in the surrounding area that could have ignited them, no scarring to the asphalt around these cars when asphalt has a much lower melting point, some trees appear have burned from the inside, a phenomenon that was also seen with the [[Paradise Fires]], after he put up the videos in which he showed the unusual burn damage, the online character assassination against him started; | ||
+ | *boats have burned, some were way out, he had to take a video down with an interview of a [[Coast Guard]] member who said that there were dead bodies in the water; | ||
+ | *in the immediate aftermath there was no government support, but government officials were blocking people that wanted to bring supplies who were coming from the other side of the island, there were no door-to-door evacuations, which happened/worked in the past, police men going through the neighborhood warning everybody; | ||
+ | {{YouTubeVideo | ||
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+ | |caption=The Mystery of Emerald Plaza Burned Buildings in Lahaina (November 12, 2023) | ||
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+ | }} | ||
+ | *for a month there was a TFR (temporary flight restriction) in place for up to 3000 feet covering a large area, these are usually limited to active fire fighting with helicopters and airplanes, this excluded any further drone footage to be made; | ||
+ | *the morning of the day the water was shut off, even if the electricity is shut down, the water usually works, somebody had to do this intentionally/manually, a fire fighter said the surface water wasn't working, then they tried the well water but the generator that was required had no fuel to operate; | ||
+ | *no accurate accounting for missing persons was given, a counselor of one of the schools in the area said they were told not to call parents, FEMA told them not to do roll calls since they are not qualified for that, West says it should be possible to get this done within a week/few weeks, with the check point system that was in place it would have been easy to do so, to this day there appears to be no clear accounting method to get to the number of missing children/people; | ||
+ | *constitutional violations left and right, local law enforcement restricts movement in the area citing the emergency proclamation which is unspecific in these areas, owners of properties were prevented from going back, reporters from the {{ccm}} with media passes were not given access to see the burn area, but the president was in the area at one point, so claims of pollution/toxicity in the area are invalid; | ||
+ | *the police chief and his deputy both came from Las Vegas, it is unusual that nobody from inside Hawaii was promoted to that position, unusual that he was able to bring his deputy, unusual that he got an early pay raise, it is against statue that he is also the coroner, there was no injunction to prevent that to happen; | ||
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+ | ==Death toll== | ||
+ | The death toll was reported to be 115 until mid-September [[2023]]; as of 21st September [[Wikipedia]] lists 97+ victims based on a report by [[AP]] from September 18th.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023_Hawaii_wildfires&oldid=1176233917</ref><ref>http://archive.today/2023.09.20-222033/https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfire-death-toll-3dc505d4d83b6af5ee01fdaf173c4f01</ref> Some locals believe that the death toll might be much higher, based on the fact that accounting is withheld, or not done in an open way.<ref>https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thomson-Interview-8-30-23:7</ref> | ||
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+ | ==Faked images== | ||
+ | To dismiss any actual conspiracies and suspicious possibilities, the media reported on [[viral]], faked images "showing" the use of "lasers shot from space".<ref>https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/08/13/viral-photo-of-laser-starting-fires-in-hawaii-is-completely-fake/</ref>. This is likely a debunker tactic similar to no plane theory of World Trade Center attacks. | ||
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* '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12J-x6PYTc Gov’t Installs BLACK FENCING Encircling Lahaina!]''''' (9:42) ~ The Jimmy Dore Show, August 29, 2023 | * '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12J-x6PYTc Gov’t Installs BLACK FENCING Encircling Lahaina!]''''' (9:42) ~ The Jimmy Dore Show, August 29, 2023 | ||
* '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Zmz2Z8JE8 Locals Tell What REALLY Happened Maui Fire]''''' (13:45) ~ I Am Eloho, August 14, 2023 | * '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Zmz2Z8JE8 Locals Tell What REALLY Happened Maui Fire]''''' (13:45) ~ I Am Eloho, August 14, 2023 | ||
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* '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWvnW7ruLzA Maui Wild Fire CONSPIRACY THEORIES - Direct Energy Weapons? Climate Change? Oprah Winfrey? Bad Gov't]''''' (14:38) ~ Clyde Do Something, August 17, 2023 | * '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWvnW7ruLzA Maui Wild Fire CONSPIRACY THEORIES - Direct Energy Weapons? Climate Change? Oprah Winfrey? Bad Gov't]''''' (14:38) ~ Clyde Do Something, August 17, 2023 | ||
* '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VShhVJZyUrM Something Doesn’t Seem Right]''''' (22:46) ~ Russell Brand, August 17, 2023 | * '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VShhVJZyUrM Something Doesn’t Seem Right]''''' (22:46) ~ Russell Brand, August 17, 2023 | ||
+ | * '''''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOkhkGQTNg Lionel: What Really Caused the Maui Fires]''''' (14:26) ~ Lionel Nation, Aug 12, 2023 | ||
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Date | 8 August 2023 - 11 August 2023 |
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Location | Hawaii |
Deaths | 97 |
Interest of | Geoff Cygnus, Shelby Hosana, Michael McGrew, Eric West |
Description | The city of Lāhainā, Hawaii was destroyed by fire. |
The 2023 Hawaii wildfires destroyed the city of Lāhainā on the island of Maui.[1] Ryan Cristian of TLAV is investigating the story,[2][3][4][5] as well as some Youtubers, like Eric West and Geoff Cygnus.[6][7] The Hawaii Fire Department found an incendiary device on September 9th, possibly suggesting arson as a cause.[8] Extreme winds were occurring that day.
Contents
Official narrative
In early August 2023, a series of wildfires broke out in the U.S. state of Hawaii, predominantly on the island of Maui. The wind-driven fires prompted evacuations, caused widespread damage, and killed at least 80 people in the town of Lahaina. The proliferation of the wildfires was attributed to dry, gusty conditions created by a strong high-pressure area north of Hawaii and Hurricane Dora to the south.
An emergency declaration was signed on August 8, authorizing several actions, including activation of the Hawaii National Guard, appropriate actions by the director of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency and the Administrator of Emergency Management, and the expenditure of state general revenue funds for relief of conditions created by the fires. By August 9, the state government of Hawaii issued a state of emergency for the entirety of the state. On August 10, U.S. president Joe Biden issued a federal major disaster declaration.
As of August 11, the 2023 Hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in the United States since the Camp Fire of 2018, in which 85 people were confirmed killed. For the Lahaina fire alone, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Pacific Disaster Center (PDC) estimated that over 2,200 buildings had been destroyed, including many historic landmarks in Lahaina, and estimated the damage caused by the fire at approximately $5.52 billion.[9]
A lawsuit filed by the Maui government in late August against Hawaiian Electric Co. accuses them of being responsible for the fire.[10][11][12]
Concerns
Lahaina has some of the more expensive real estate in the US.[13] The police seems to have blocked exit routes which trapped many people.[14] The German version of Russia Today carried an article that focused on the speculation that electromagnetic weaponry was used to clear the area for the construction of a smart city.[15] Local Youtubers have recorded burnt cars (in Lahaina Luna) that were standing on an empty lot, whose rims have melted away with no damage to surrounding buildings.[16][17][18]
Zerohedge reports that the local administration attempts an information blackout and Governor of Hawaii, Josh Green, told locals not to listen to information from social media and "influencers".[19] He said: "doing reporting through social media is idiotic".[20] Media is not allowed to do on the ground reporting,[21] even locals who try to film are ordered away.[22] Curtains are put up on the side of the road as to block the view on the disaster area.[23][24]
John Pelletier, who was leading the area command that covers the strip at which the 2017 Las Vegas shooting happened, was made Maui Chief of Police at the end of 2021.[25] Pelletier has created a "hostile work environment" shortly after his start,[26][27][28] which caused some people to retire early, or to consider doing so.[29]
Eric West in a video interview with survivors who have lost their home, hints at the fact that videos are getting removed from phones of local people.[30]
Shelby Hosana relates that emergency services workers were made to sign NDA agreements.[31][32]
Observations by locals
Geoff Cygnus
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Geoff Cygnus lived on Hawaii but left when he started to be harassed for his reporting.[34] In a video from the 19th September 2023 he observes the following:[35]
- the less affluent areas in Lahaina city have burned (Lahaina Luna has survived), areas where there are often 15-20 people inhabiting a house - so the poor areas have been destroyed but the much richer Kaanapali Hillside and Launiupoko were not touched (also the area around the Safeway shopping center remains);
- when he moved to Hawaii he noticed many things (code violations) that could lead to catastrophic outcome in case of a fire;
- there were large piles of construction material for affordable housing stored behind these areas, a local told him that when these caught fire, it caused 100 feet flames, embers and sparks that were spreading to the residential area;
- the government there is inept and there is sort of a "club" that occupies it;
- there is no sense in the fence and in the harassment by the special police to everyone who stops on the bypass;
- the measures to control the population, forced to get permission slips to return to your house, were bizarre;
Shelby Hosana
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Shelby Hosana makes the observation that the cars that have burned out at Front-Street all have their doors closed, indicating that the people did not get out and died inside, which seems implausible since there should be enough time to get out in when a regular fire approaches and move/sprint into the water nearby. In her view this is also the reason why the area has been closed off and only FEMA and National Guard are allowed in - to make documentation of facts impossible.[37]
In an interview from the 8th of August 2023 she mentions the following:[38]
- people who went in the disaster zone the day after said the streets were littered with corpses - a local told her that he in the first days pulled 300 people from the sea wall and streets when government forces were doing nothing, or instead started to build the fence first;
- the police was blocking every exit from Lahaina, no water in the fire hydrants;
- sirens are tested monthly and are also used for warn of wild fires, but remained silent on purpose (the official responsible is a fall guy, but later also an explanation was issued that they did not work that day), people only realized the fire is close when other's started screaming;
- the wind came from the mountain side that day (from inside the island) which is unusual and was blamed on a hurricane that was 700 miles out - this does not make sense, since it's position (the hurricane) would have caused winds from the sea and radar data indicates that clouds in between were undisturbed;
- the governor, Josh Green, reversed the Sunshine-Laws three weeks before the fire, which allows for public discussions of land use;
- 3 million was spent to build the fence that blocks the view, this was a priority objective before anything else, now there is FBI every 100 yards and National Guard at every corner, but it took FEMA six days to show up - in the first week there was no government support, but authorities prevented Hawaii locals to bring supplies into Lahaina in the first days and the Coast Guard issued threats (that they will shoot) to boats that were searching for dead people and those who wanted to bring supplies - reasons for this were claims of asbestos (but government searches afterwards never wore masks) and (still) ongoing fires, she suspects that the real reason was that citizens should not see the high number of corpses in the burn zone;
- Josh Green already announced that not many body parts will be found - a reporter from Kentucky, Nick Sortor, who asked the Mayor of Maui County, Richard Bissen, questions about missing people was almost arrested and escorted out;
- during the event, cars malfunctioned: did not start and doors did not open, later people on the island had problems with their car batteries and electronic problems with their cars in general (she had malfunctions with her car as well);
- the military leases on Pearl Harbor signed by Roosevelt are running out;
- the morning of the fire military subs were spotted at sea;
- the military has a directed energy weapon installed on the island, some blue things seem to not have burnt, melted or have been scorched;
- she has received a video with one corpse in the middle of the road, no burn marks around him/her, half of the body is intact (so you can read the T-Shirt), the other half is completely burned;
- Soiltac dust suppressant is used because the remaining material may hold information on a molecular level how hot the fire was (she mentions car engines made of steel have melted);
- pilot logs are getting erased, 30 % are missing from the Air Traffic Control website (OGG);
Eric West
The Mystery of the Lahaina Pentecostal Church - Can YOU Explain? Never Before Seen Footage Maui Fire (October 26, 2023) |
Eric West in a video from 26th September 2023 explains the following:[39]
- Josh Green in a UN hearing did say that it was a 17 minute fire,[40] but the fire did burn a whole day long (he observed it burning until midnight when he was evacuated from his home);
- Josh Green speaks of climate change as the underlying cause for the fire, yet Maui County files a lawsuit against Hawaiian Electric Co. for not properly maintaining the electrical system;[41]
- that day a (official) message went out that there is a brush fire which is 100% contained, giving every recipient in the area the feeling that there is nothing to worry about, the fire re-ignited and at that point went into the housing development;
- the sirens were not activated, an explanation was issued that the public is trained to think that the sirens are meant to warn of a tsunami and that would have caused them to flee to the inside of the island, but the EMS website still states that these are emergency sirens and people are supposed to tune in to their radios or cellphones to get information "to avoid danger" - the emergency manager later resigns due to health reasons;
- the power was out that day (early in the morning),[42] the explanation why people and traffic were kept redirected in Lahaina Town was that there are downed power lines, but it should have been possible to clear an exit until mid-day;
- cell signals were off since the morning, however the phones still could receive text messages, which continued for weeks (no cell signal but text messages were still incoming), a communication blackout for three weeks), there was no warning of the fire via text, there are entries in the FCC in which cell companies are asking to operate at a different frequency, so that certain frequencies came offline, which in his opinion caused the phones to no longer work properly;
- some trees (palm trees are very flammable) and in part the foliage have survived next to areas that have intensively burned - with temperatures so high that glass, aluminum and copper have melted (as shown in his drone video [43]), some blue things have survived, cars have completely burned out and some of the metal melted away, yet there was very little in the surrounding area that could have ignited them, no scarring to the asphalt around these cars when asphalt has a much lower melting point, some trees appear have burned from the inside, a phenomenon that was also seen with the Paradise Fires, after he put up the videos in which he showed the unusual burn damage, the online character assassination against him started;
- boats have burned, some were way out, he had to take a video down with an interview of a Coast Guard member who said that there were dead bodies in the water;
- in the immediate aftermath there was no government support, but government officials were blocking people that wanted to bring supplies who were coming from the other side of the island, there were no door-to-door evacuations, which happened/worked in the past, police men going through the neighborhood warning everybody;
The Mystery of Emerald Plaza Burned Buildings in Lahaina (November 12, 2023) |
- for a month there was a TFR (temporary flight restriction) in place for up to 3000 feet covering a large area, these are usually limited to active fire fighting with helicopters and airplanes, this excluded any further drone footage to be made;
- the morning of the day the water was shut off, even if the electricity is shut down, the water usually works, somebody had to do this intentionally/manually, a fire fighter said the surface water wasn't working, then they tried the well water but the generator that was required had no fuel to operate;
- no accurate accounting for missing persons was given, a counselor of one of the schools in the area said they were told not to call parents, FEMA told them not to do roll calls since they are not qualified for that, West says it should be possible to get this done within a week/few weeks, with the check point system that was in place it would have been easy to do so, to this day there appears to be no clear accounting method to get to the number of missing children/people;
- constitutional violations left and right, local law enforcement restricts movement in the area citing the emergency proclamation which is unspecific in these areas, owners of properties were prevented from going back, reporters from the commercially-controlled media with media passes were not given access to see the burn area, but the president was in the area at one point, so claims of pollution/toxicity in the area are invalid;
- the police chief and his deputy both came from Las Vegas, it is unusual that nobody from inside Hawaii was promoted to that position, unusual that he was able to bring his deputy, unusual that he got an early pay raise, it is against statue that he is also the coroner, there was no injunction to prevent that to happen;
Death toll
The death toll was reported to be 115 until mid-September 2023; as of 21st September Wikipedia lists 97+ victims based on a report by AP from September 18th.[44][45] Some locals believe that the death toll might be much higher, based on the fact that accounting is withheld, or not done in an open way.[46]
Faked images
To dismiss any actual conspiracies and suspicious possibilities, the media reported on viral, faked images "showing" the use of "lasers shot from space".[47]. This is likely a debunker tactic similar to no plane theory of World Trade Center attacks.
Videos
'reallygraceful' (Sep 2, 2023) What The Media Won't Tell You About the Maui Fires (Parts 1, 2 & 3) |
Jonathan Herzog (August 11, 2023) Maui Lahaina Wild Fire Escape |
Jonathan Petramala (Aug 17, 2023) Chaotic Maui Evacuation: Police Block Exits As Wildfire Forces Ocean Escape |
- Gov’t Installs BLACK FENCING Encircling Lahaina! (9:42) ~ The Jimmy Dore Show, August 29, 2023
- Locals Tell What REALLY Happened Maui Fire (13:45) ~ I Am Eloho, August 14, 2023
- "Lahaina has been totally destroyed!" Maui residents left to fend for themselves | Redacted News (20:39) ~ Redacted, August 14, 2023
- How Did The Devastating Maui Fires Really Start? (22:30) ~ The Jimmy Dore Show, August 15, 2023
- The puzzling fire of Maui (7:15) ~ Richard Vobes, August 15, 2023
- Is something else going on? (7:03) ~ Richard Vobes, August 16, 2023
- The Big Bad Whoosh (8:32) ~ Richard Vobes, August 15, 2023
- Maui Wild Fire CONSPIRACY THEORIES - Direct Energy Weapons? Climate Change? Oprah Winfrey? Bad Gov't (14:38) ~ Clyde Do Something, August 17, 2023
- Something Doesn’t Seem Right (22:46) ~ Russell Brand, August 17, 2023
- Lionel: What Really Caused the Maui Fires (14:26) ~ Lionel Nation, Aug 12, 2023
Related Document
Title | Type | Publication date | Author(s) | Description |
---|---|---|---|---|
File:Damage to the United Pentecostal Church during the 2023 Hawaii wildfires.pdf | Document | 26 October 2023 | Eric West | A document that details very unusual damage to the United Pentecostal Church in Lahaina, Hawaii. |
References
- ↑ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12394625/Oldest-house-Maui-razed-ground-deadly-wildfires-Baldwin-House-built-1834-Lahaina-played-host-members-Hawaiian-royal-family-city-capital.html
- ↑ Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let's Look At What We Can Prove... (August 12, 2023)
- ↑ Shelby Thomson Interview - Locals Convinced Maui Fires Not Accident As Evidence Suggests Foul Play (August 14, 2023)
- ↑ Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires & FDA Claims It Cannot Be Held Accountable For Misinfo (August 16, 2023)
- ↑ Maui Update: Land Grabs, 2030 Goals, Aluminum Dust & New Space Force DEW Unit Activated Last Week (August 17, 2023)
- ↑ Hawaii Real Estate - https://www.youtube.com/@hawaiirealestateorg/videos
- ↑ Geoff Cygnus - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1QMfDq7VDGOR7WRCcv1mew/videos
- ↑ https://spectrumlocalnews.com/hi/hawaii/top-stories/2023/08/10/hawaii-island-police-investigate-arson-as-cause-of-the-ka---wildfire
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOkhkGQTNg
- ↑ https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12759
- ↑ https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/maui-v-heco-complaint-maui-circuit-court.pdf
- ↑ https://citable.com/2023/08/maui-government-lawsuit-accuses-hawaiian-electric-industries-of-causing-lahaina-wildfires/
- ↑ http://archive.today/2023.08.21-202552/https://www.redfin.com/city/10924/HI/Lahaina/housing-market
- ↑ Maui Police Blocked Escape Routed as told by FISH from Front Street Found ALIVE! (Aug 19, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel
- ↑ https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ saved at Archive.org saved at Archive.is
- ↑ Maui D.E.W: Evidence of Direct Energy Weapon? Judge For Yourself.., Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023
- ↑ MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?, Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023
- ↑ A closer look at several car fires, and how the intensity of the Lahaina fire varied by location., Geoff Cygnus YT channel, Sep 1, 2023
- ↑ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hawaii-state-government-attempts-information-blackout-maui-fire-refuses-media-access
- ↑ https://en-volve.com/2023/08/20/hawaii-gov-josh-green-doing-reporting-through-social-media-is-idiotic/
- ↑ https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-21-hawaii-state-government-attempts-information-blackout.html
- ↑ at the end of the video, MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?
- ↑ https://davidicke.com/2023/08/29/media-blackout-black-curtains-go-up-in-lahaina-blocking-view-of-ground-zero-investigation-clean-up/
- ↑ https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2023/08/30/black-curtains-surrounding-the-site-of-maui-fires-suggests-media-blackout-from-learning-the-truth-n2627751
- ↑ https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2023/08/14/who-is-john-pelletier-maui-chief-of-police/
- ↑ https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/09/maui-police-commission-finds-complaints-against-new-chief-not-substantiated/
- ↑ https://mauinow.com/2022/08/18/maui-police-commission-reviews-complaints-against-chief-and-executive-staff/
- ↑ https://www.mauinews.com/news/local-news/2022/11/reports-shed-light-on-complaints-against-mpd-chief/
- ↑ Former Maui Police officers speak out about toxic and hostile work environment, KITV 4, July 29, 2022
- ↑ starting ca 08:05 - Maui Lahaina Fire : Behind the Scenes with Real Survivors : Jeremy and Elisha Baldwin 4 Children (Aug 22, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel
- ↑ https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/lahaina-maui-shelby-hosana/
- ↑ https://www.bitchute.com/video/auNNcat7WTvl/
- ↑ [Things that melted during the Lahaina fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEw3iFvZmk], Aug 26, 2023
- ↑ Permanently leaving Maui Now the gloves can come off + how haters kept me safe while I was here, Sep 11, 2023
- ↑ New details on the Lahaina fire. Unreleased footage and multiple side by side before and after comparisons., September 19, 2023
- ↑ https://boe.hawaii.gov/Meetings/Notices/Meeting%20Material%20Library/GBM_08242023_Report%20on%20Report%20of%20the%20Superintendent.pdf
- ↑ "It was Voluntary Manslaughter" | Part 1 of our Interview with Maui resident Shelby Thomson The Homeless Left channel, starting ca. 10:00
- ↑ The Unjected Show #032 | Where Are The 2,000 Missing Children? The Unjected Show, 08 August 2023
- ↑ Maui Fires Cover Up Story, September 26, 2023
- ↑ Local2030 Coalition: Pushing key transitions and achieving the SDGs by 2030 (SDG Action Weekend, Acceleration Day, High Impact Initiatives), 17 Sep 2023, "and the fires that came, they came to us in the form of a fire hurricane, winds were 74 miles per hour, on the tail end of a hurricane, and swept through our town Lahaina in 17 minutes", ca 32:22
- ↑ https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12759
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hawaii_wildfires#Maui
- ↑ DAY AFTER FIRE FOOTAGE: 4K Drone Lahaina Maui Fire - Longest & Most Detailed Aerial View, Aug 21, 2023
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023_Hawaii_wildfires&oldid=1176233917
- ↑ http://archive.today/2023.09.20-222033/https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfire-death-toll-3dc505d4d83b6af5ee01fdaf173c4f01
- ↑ https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thomson-Interview-8-30-23:7
- ↑ https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/08/13/viral-photo-of-laser-starting-fires-in-hawaii-is-completely-fake/