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Thanks for your recent solid efforts on the encyclopedia that is Wikispooks.
 
Thanks for your recent solid efforts on the encyclopedia that is Wikispooks.
We could really use some help with https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Category:Stubs, specificity, reducing the number of stub articles. Please consider making those pages a priority.  --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 12:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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We could really use some help with https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Category:Stubs, specifically, reducing the number of stub articles. Please consider making those pages a priority.  --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 12:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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UKpeacelibertyfreedom and Jun,
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I've been following your work. In my opinion, don't stress to much about destubbing pages just for the sake of destubbing.  Your new additions - I especially like your many additions of independent media & journalists - are much better.
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[[User:Terje|Terje]] ([[User talk:Terje|talk]]) 06:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)---
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:Hi, that's cool. I was only trying to help out, so thank you for your message. I went looking through the stub list, I added things to the articles that I knew at least something about. I was actually wondering what the standard is for destubbing. Is it an opening paragraph, a few sentences, references etc? Thanks! :) [[User:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|UKpeacelibertyfreedom]] ([[User talk:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|talk]])
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::I don't think there is a particular standard as long as they are presentable, but it is nice if they have some 'deep' contents or focus.
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[[User:Terje|Terje]] ([[User talk:Terje|talk]]) 08:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)---
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:::Good question with the unsatisfactory answer that different editors have different standards:-) I would consider a lede, description and a few sentences as a minimum, but possibly less for pages with a lot of machine-cross-referenced content. Links to other pages of interest -- whether on this site or elsewhere -- are good, since this prevents readers from reaching a dead end. I concentrate on |description, since this field may appear on lots of other pages, but any simple metadata such as date/location for events, nationality/dates for people, are good, since this creates two way links, allows automatic listing of the page from elsewhere on the site. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:07, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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:::: thanks! [[User:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|UKpeacelibertyfreedom]] ([[User talk:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|talk]]) 22:00 19 July 2021
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== Constitutes ==
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The "[[vaccine hesitancy]]" page is a good idea -- highlighting the language manipulation is important. Since the term itself is weaponised language, I added {{t|{{!}}<nowiki>so_called=1</nowiki>}} to clarify this. So, like "[[terrorism]]", this a phrase not to use without quotes. The test I recommend for {{t|{{!}}constitutes}} is to ask whether it is correct to say "PAGENAME ''is'' CONSTITUTES". -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 19:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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== ON ==
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Per, the style guide https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Style_Guide, would you be willing to try to add an official narrative section in events of pages. See this {https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Style_Guide#Official_narrative} section as to why. --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 18:55, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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Again; https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2023_Hawaii_wildfires [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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==Time references==
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Hi there, hope you're doing fine. Your content is spot on, thx for your contribs, try using our social media ccounts or smth, I'd think you would really get some news fans of ours, or help on the main page format. Anyway, I do want to ask if you would be willing to ''not'' use current time references in articles. As to why and how you could format an article is listed here > See: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Style_Guide#Time_references --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 03:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Thankyou very much, I will do in future. [[User:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|UKpeacelibertyfreedom]] ([[User talk:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|talk]]) 05:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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==Time references==
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Hi there, I'd like to ask you if you be willing to contribute in the discussion how you would like to modernize the main page.
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Your voice would be appreciated in the discussion here: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Template_talk:Main-content#July_-_August_-_September
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Cheers, Junn --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 18:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Categories ==
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There's a technically superior alternative to categories. It's called [[Property:Constitutes]], and it adds information to the [[SMW]] database. All the object templates allow <code>|constitutes=election</code>, which means that it will be (not always immediately) listed at that page, i.e. [[election]]. I've just added [[National election]], as a more precise alternative. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 18:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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==Loudon County==
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Hi there, I've moved the Controversy in Loudon County for a few reasons to [[Virginia]]
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1. The article starts off by saying that controversy started in the county from 2020, but... there is always controversy in any county in the US. A lot of things happened before 2020.
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2. One rape with a DA financed partly by Soros is not a [[third rail topic]]. First of all, it was in the news, locally and nationally. A rape needs to have a deep political insight, otherwise, it it better fitted to the location, the person of interest that may be interesting to our readers or the circumstances or just the [[rape]] page. 1000s of people get raped, multiple CIA officers, ICE agents and police officers get convicted. That doesn't cut it.
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3. Soros spends $40 million to elect DAs throughtout the US, often left, that not see less crime rates (softly said), that would be an angle.
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4. The article has not been updated with the fact the DA was removed and lost her donors. So... now, the article doesn't have any deep political insight? The Daily Wire reported the story with the narrative of the "progressive" elected county prosecutor who ran on a platform of ending "mass incarceration," but yet she sought jail time for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, both misdemeanor charges, against Scott Smith. That angle would fit this site. Or could have included her as deep state lawyer, stretching it, but ok. (future wanted page).
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5. FOX News angle was that this was a personal thing between the DA and the father of the rape victim, and repeats the angle that the Daily wire took that she is aiding crime by not doing anything. Just go with that would be my guess. So I'd added your text to Virgina, removed your article and added that piece of info to the Virginia and Soros, and TDW page. As per Wikispooks policy I'm required to do so, but as I like your work I took more time to explain it here so lengthy. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 09:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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PS: refs for my research follow now and are not in proper code because that puts a load on the server and is not needed on talk & user pages
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/loudoun-county-prosecutor-soros-mcauliffe
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=loudon+county+rape
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/loudoun-county-schools-tried-to-conceal-sexual-assault-against-daughter-in-bathroom-father-says
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==Third Rail topics==
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Third tail topic are topics (not opinions) that are never discussed in any public or academic debate, so if you see a subject discussed on the mainstream media, it is de facto not a TRT, that includes FOX news. Good examples of important deep events that are not '''ever''' mentioned in the media are "[[Operation 40]], [[Main Core]] or the claims of [[Sibel Edmonds]] (not 9-11, but the CIA and Gladio B corruption) as she got a gag order, the [[Spycatcher]]-claims, [[Willem Matser]] (whose picture I found in a digitally stored archive of a secured database only for the article to disappear 1 week later, which.. is strange for a basically the Doug Stamper* of the NATO General) etc. Topics can also late become a TRT; The origins of COVID have not been discussed anymore since Europe and the US opened up, Blaine Gibson's claims that the [[Maldives]] government were assassinating his friends on the island and sealed any investigation of the [[MH370]] away for "national security", [[Nicole Junkermann]]'s links to Epstein never discussed, and Wikipedia wiping her entry completely.
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So, would you be willing to please refrain of using that term in articles without searching for if the page meets the criteria first?
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Thanks for all your contributions, keep up the good work. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 09:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:26, 12 August 2023

Welcome to Wikispooks!

We're glad you came. There's lots to do.
The Community portal is probably the best place to start for new users. To add a Wikispooks search facility to your browser, go here. If you've got a topic you're itching to write about, just dive in. If you're not sure where to start, you can introduce yourself by editing either this page or your user page. Robin (talk) 14:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi UKpeacelibertyfreedom,
Welcome! More experienced users (like myself) will be helping you as you go, so don't be intimidated by the more advanced editing functions.Terje (talk) 13:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)---
Hi UKpeacelibertyfreedom,
Your edits are greatly appreciated and adds to the project. Just be aware that getting your articles on the front page of Wikispooks can be a bit of a random effort ☺. The front page updates following its own frustratingly slow algorithm that only updates a few times during a week, at seemingly random intervals.

Terje (talk) 02:08, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Greetings UKpeacelibertyfreedom,

Thanks for your recent solid efforts on the encyclopedia that is Wikispooks. We could really use some help with https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Category:Stubs, specifically, reducing the number of stub articles. Please consider making those pages a priority. --Jun (talk) 12:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

UKpeacelibertyfreedom and Jun, I've been following your work. In my opinion, don't stress to much about destubbing pages just for the sake of destubbing. Your new additions - I especially like your many additions of independent media & journalists - are much better. Terje (talk) 06:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)---

Hi, that's cool. I was only trying to help out, so thank you for your message. I went looking through the stub list, I added things to the articles that I knew at least something about. I was actually wondering what the standard is for destubbing. Is it an opening paragraph, a few sentences, references etc? Thanks! :) UKpeacelibertyfreedom (talk)
I don't think there is a particular standard as long as they are presentable, but it is nice if they have some 'deep' contents or focus.

Terje (talk) 08:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)---

Good question with the unsatisfactory answer that different editors have different standards:-) I would consider a lede, description and a few sentences as a minimum, but possibly less for pages with a lot of machine-cross-referenced content. Links to other pages of interest -- whether on this site or elsewhere -- are good, since this prevents readers from reaching a dead end. I concentrate on |description, since this field may appear on lots of other pages, but any simple metadata such as date/location for events, nationality/dates for people, are good, since this creates two way links, allows automatic listing of the page from elsewhere on the site. -- Robin (talk) 14:07, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
thanks! UKpeacelibertyfreedom (talk) 22:00 19 July 2021

Constitutes

The "vaccine hesitancy" page is a good idea -- highlighting the language manipulation is important. Since the term itself is weaponised language, I added |so_called=1 to clarify this. So, like "terrorism", this a phrase not to use without quotes. The test I recommend for |constitutes is to ask whether it is correct to say "PAGENAME is CONSTITUTES". -- Robin (talk) 19:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

ON

Per, the style guide https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Style_Guide, would you be willing to try to add an official narrative section in events of pages. See this {https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Style_Guide#Official_narrative} section as to why. --Jun (talk) 18:55, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Again; https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2023_Hawaii_wildfires Jun (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Time references

Hi there, hope you're doing fine. Your content is spot on, thx for your contribs, try using our social media ccounts or smth, I'd think you would really get some news fans of ours, or help on the main page format. Anyway, I do want to ask if you would be willing to not use current time references in articles. As to why and how you could format an article is listed here > See: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Style_Guide#Time_references --Jun (talk) 03:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Thankyou very much, I will do in future. UKpeacelibertyfreedom (talk) 05:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Time references

Hi there, I'd like to ask you if you be willing to contribute in the discussion how you would like to modernize the main page. Your voice would be appreciated in the discussion here: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Template_talk:Main-content#July_-_August_-_September Cheers, Junn --Jun (talk) 18:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Categories

There's a technically superior alternative to categories. It's called Property:Constitutes, and it adds information to the SMW database. All the object templates allow |constitutes=election, which means that it will be (not always immediately) listed at that page, i.e. election. I've just added National election, as a more precise alternative. -- Robin (talk) 18:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


Loudon County

Hi there, I've moved the Controversy in Loudon County for a few reasons to Virginia

1. The article starts off by saying that controversy started in the county from 2020, but... there is always controversy in any county in the US. A lot of things happened before 2020.

2. One rape with a DA financed partly by Soros is not a third rail topic. First of all, it was in the news, locally and nationally. A rape needs to have a deep political insight, otherwise, it it better fitted to the location, the person of interest that may be interesting to our readers or the circumstances or just the rape page. 1000s of people get raped, multiple CIA officers, ICE agents and police officers get convicted. That doesn't cut it.

3. Soros spends $40 million to elect DAs throughtout the US, often left, that not see less crime rates (softly said), that would be an angle. 4. The article has not been updated with the fact the DA was removed and lost her donors. So... now, the article doesn't have any deep political insight? The Daily Wire reported the story with the narrative of the "progressive" elected county prosecutor who ran on a platform of ending "mass incarceration," but yet she sought jail time for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, both misdemeanor charges, against Scott Smith. That angle would fit this site. Or could have included her as deep state lawyer, stretching it, but ok. (future wanted page).

5. FOX News angle was that this was a personal thing between the DA and the father of the rape victim, and repeats the angle that the Daily wire took that she is aiding crime by not doing anything. Just go with that would be my guess. So I'd added your text to Virgina, removed your article and added that piece of info to the Virginia and Soros, and TDW page. As per Wikispooks policy I'm required to do so, but as I like your work I took more time to explain it here so lengthy. Jun (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

PS: refs for my research follow now and are not in proper code because that puts a load on the server and is not needed on talk & user pages https://www.foxnews.com/politics/loudoun-county-prosecutor-soros-mcauliffe https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=loudon+county+rape https://www.dailywire.com/news/loudoun-county-schools-tried-to-conceal-sexual-assault-against-daughter-in-bathroom-father-says

Third Rail topics

Third tail topic are topics (not opinions) that are never discussed in any public or academic debate, so if you see a subject discussed on the mainstream media, it is de facto not a TRT, that includes FOX news. Good examples of important deep events that are not ever mentioned in the media are "Operation 40, Main Core or the claims of Sibel Edmonds (not 9-11, but the CIA and Gladio B corruption) as she got a gag order, the Spycatcher-claims, Willem Matser (whose picture I found in a digitally stored archive of a secured database only for the article to disappear 1 week later, which.. is strange for a basically the Doug Stamper* of the NATO General) etc. Topics can also late become a TRT; The origins of COVID have not been discussed anymore since Europe and the US opened up, Blaine Gibson's claims that the Maldives government were assassinating his friends on the island and sealed any investigation of the MH370 away for "national security", Nicole Junkermann's links to Epstein never discussed, and Wikipedia wiping her entry completely.

So, would you be willing to please refrain of using that term in articles without searching for if the page meets the criteria first? Thanks for all your contributions, keep up the good work. Jun (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)