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=== COVID-19 deep event ===
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I suggest adding the ''[[Covid-19]] deep event'' as one of the priority [[Wikispooks:Projects]].
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[[User:Terje|Terje]] ([[User talk:Terje|talk]]) 14:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)---
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: I strongly agree. How do we go about it? [[User:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|UKpeacelibertyfreedom]] ([[User talk:UKpeacelibertyfreedom|talk]])
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:: Simplest is to add a section to that page; there is currently nothing else needed, no bespoke templates. Are there any projects on that list which you think should be retired? They've all been somewhat achieved. Currently, there are no "/Archives" for past projects, though this might be helpful. What do you think? -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
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== General thoughts ==
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I'm not really clear on what "Projects" means.  It seems to mean "priorities" or "goals" and is very close to "To Do" which seems to be more about "maintenance", but not quite "webmaster administration".  Generally projects could mean so much more too.  Distinctions with a difference.
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Part of my confusion is that, on a personal level, I consider the "[[Eric Ciaramella]]" page to be an active "project" that needs more clarity, sources, information, etc.  (Maybe "Projects" and "To Do" could be merged and simplified with a "Priority" status added.  Or not.)  I also intend to bring some projects to Wikispooks to open up from being just my own to a collective effort.  Maybe those "projects" will need a different term.  ~ '''<font face="Arial">[[User:JasonCarswell|<font color="black">JasonCarswell</font>]] <small>[[User talk:JasonCarswell|<font color="gray">(talk)</font>]]</small></font>''' 22:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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== Wikispooks talk:Projects discussion relocated here ==
  
 
I didn't want to take the liberty of saying what Wikispooks should or should not do until I get more acclimated.  But I have a few ideas nonetheless.
 
I didn't want to take the liberty of saying what Wikispooks should or should not do until I get more acclimated.  But I have a few ideas nonetheless.
  
I alphabetized the sections on the page (and made a couple minor grammar and punctuation adjustments).  I saw no evidence that any were a priority above the others.  There's no great reason to do this other than it might help a bit, and it might also make it more inviting to add more sections for more content needing attention, if necessary.
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I alphabetized the [[Wikispooks:Projects]] sections on the page (and made a couple minor grammar and punctuation adjustments).  I saw no evidence that any were a priority above the others.  There's no great reason to do this other than it might help a bit, and it might also make it more inviting to add more sections for more content needing attention, if necessary.
  
The PropOrNot/List was history to be sure.  But is it a priority?  "Reporting cases of censorship, particularly on the internet" could be a much larger expansion with many primary sections, ie: Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. as well as their funding sources: PayPal, Patreon, etc.  Those lists must be huge.  That's not even counting the "foreign agents" thing - like how RT News is called.
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The [[PropOrNot/List]] was history to be sure.  But is it a priority?  "Reporting cases of censorship, particularly on the internet" could be a much larger expansion with many primary sections, ie: Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. as well as their funding sources: PayPal, Patreon, etc.  Those lists must be huge.  That's not even counting the "foreign agents" thing - like how RT News is called.
  
 
It may be worth adding to the Whistleblowers ''Suggested improvements for this project include:'' something like "the pros and cons" and "follow up".  On one hand listing the cons of whistleblowers might frighten many - but it may also warn them of things to avoid.  Also listing pros is good - for example they might have saved millions of lives.  And follow up, IMO, is important to help publicize problems whistleblowers may be facing - and may even be helped with.  It's also necessary to recognize heroes, etc.
 
It may be worth adding to the Whistleblowers ''Suggested improvements for this project include:'' something like "the pros and cons" and "follow up".  On one hand listing the cons of whistleblowers might frighten many - but it may also warn them of things to avoid.  Also listing pros is good - for example they might have saved millions of lives.  And follow up, IMO, is important to help publicize problems whistleblowers may be facing - and may even be helped with.  It's also necessary to recognize heroes, etc.
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If this discussion should be in a better place (ie. A centralized Wikispooks community Tea Room or something) please feel free to copypasta move (and delete) this post there and please ping notify me.  ~ '''<font face="Arial">[[User:JasonCarswell|<font color="black">JasonCarswell</font>]] <small>[[User talk:JasonCarswell|<font color="gray">(talk)</font>]]</small></font>''' 22:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
If this discussion should be in a better place (ie. A centralized Wikispooks community Tea Room or something) please feel free to copypasta move (and delete) this post there and please ping notify me.  ~ '''<font face="Arial">[[User:JasonCarswell|<font color="black">JasonCarswell</font>]] <small>[[User talk:JasonCarswell|<font color="gray">(talk)</font>]]</small></font>''' 22:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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== Cleanup? ==
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I came here today to try to simply find a [[Wikispooks: List of needed articles]] or [[:Category:Wikispooks:Needed articles]] to add [[Zero Draft Pandemic Treaty]] under [[WHO]] - but all I found was confusion.
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It seems there should be a prominent talk page for general WikiSpooks goals, management, and tasks and/or a social discussion for building community.  [[Wikispooks talk:Community portal#Community Portal discussion]] is a start.  Under this central organizing page would fall many options, such as the wish list mentioned.
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It would seem practical to merge [[:Category:To Do]] and [[:Category:Wikispooks To Do]].  Each page should explain if there are category distinctions and reasons why they should be separate.
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Same with [[:Category:Project]] and [[Wikispooks:Projects]].
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It may be practical to create [[:Category:Wikispooks]] for all other categories to fall under in whatever hierarchy of categories that may or may not yet exist.  In particular, the management of Wikispooks would be the first place I'd start organizing, since there are over a thousand [[Special:Categories]], along with countless category-less pages.  Robin doesn't like categories, but they are a very powerful tool that could help organize things.
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Also, for whatever it's worth, <big>'''[https://Projex.Wiki https://Projex.Wiki]'''</big> is up and running, for any kind of project that is not encyclopedic (as that's been done many times over).
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~ '''<font face="Arial">[[User:JasonCarswell|<font color="black">JasonCarswell</font>]] <small>[[User talk:JasonCarswell|<font color="gray">(talk)</font>]]</small></font>'''
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[[Category:Wikispooks]]

Latest revision as of 18:22, 8 August 2023

New Project suggestions

COVID-19 deep event

I suggest adding the Covid-19 deep event as one of the priority Wikispooks:Projects. Terje (talk) 14:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)---

I strongly agree. How do we go about it? UKpeacelibertyfreedom (talk)
Simplest is to add a section to that page; there is currently nothing else needed, no bespoke templates. Are there any projects on that list which you think should be retired? They've all been somewhat achieved. Currently, there are no "/Archives" for past projects, though this might be helpful. What do you think? -- Robin (talk) 16:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

General thoughts

I'm not really clear on what "Projects" means. It seems to mean "priorities" or "goals" and is very close to "To Do" which seems to be more about "maintenance", but not quite "webmaster administration". Generally projects could mean so much more too. Distinctions with a difference.

Part of my confusion is that, on a personal level, I consider the "Eric Ciaramella" page to be an active "project" that needs more clarity, sources, information, etc. (Maybe "Projects" and "To Do" could be merged and simplified with a "Priority" status added. Or not.) I also intend to bring some projects to Wikispooks to open up from being just my own to a collective effort. Maybe those "projects" will need a different term. ~ JasonCarswell (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikispooks talk:Projects discussion relocated here

I didn't want to take the liberty of saying what Wikispooks should or should not do until I get more acclimated. But I have a few ideas nonetheless.

I alphabetized the Wikispooks:Projects sections on the page (and made a couple minor grammar and punctuation adjustments). I saw no evidence that any were a priority above the others. There's no great reason to do this other than it might help a bit, and it might also make it more inviting to add more sections for more content needing attention, if necessary.

The PropOrNot/List was history to be sure. But is it a priority? "Reporting cases of censorship, particularly on the internet" could be a much larger expansion with many primary sections, ie: Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. as well as their funding sources: PayPal, Patreon, etc. Those lists must be huge. That's not even counting the "foreign agents" thing - like how RT News is called.

It may be worth adding to the Whistleblowers Suggested improvements for this project include: something like "the pros and cons" and "follow up". On one hand listing the cons of whistleblowers might frighten many - but it may also warn them of things to avoid. Also listing pros is good - for example they might have saved millions of lives. And follow up, IMO, is important to help publicize problems whistleblowers may be facing - and may even be helped with. It's also necessary to recognize heroes, etc.

I would like to see one more addition in particular, assuming it's cool with the Wikispooks people. I'd like to see a little "Wikispooks Community" section that lists things that exist and to do in order to build the WS community, including centralized information, centralized hangouts (ie. https://SaidIt.net/s/Wikispooks), etc.

If this discussion should be in a better place (ie. A centralized Wikispooks community Tea Room or something) please feel free to copypasta move (and delete) this post there and please ping notify me. ~ JasonCarswell (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup?

I came here today to try to simply find a Wikispooks: List of needed articles or Category:Wikispooks:Needed articles to add Zero Draft Pandemic Treaty under WHO - but all I found was confusion.

It seems there should be a prominent talk page for general WikiSpooks goals, management, and tasks and/or a social discussion for building community. Wikispooks talk:Community portal#Community Portal discussion is a start. Under this central organizing page would fall many options, such as the wish list mentioned.

It would seem practical to merge Category:To Do and Category:Wikispooks To Do. Each page should explain if there are category distinctions and reasons why they should be separate.

Same with Category:Project and Wikispooks:Projects.

It may be practical to create Category:Wikispooks for all other categories to fall under in whatever hierarchy of categories that may or may not yet exist. In particular, the management of Wikispooks would be the first place I'd start organizing, since there are over a thousand Special:Categories, along with countless category-less pages. Robin doesn't like categories, but they are a very powerful tool that could help organize things.

Also, for whatever it's worth, https://Projex.Wiki is up and running, for any kind of project that is not encyclopedic (as that's been done many times over).

~ JasonCarswell (talk)