Talk:David McGowan

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2017

I was looking for the subject of his next book that he didn't finish.

I just read that it was pancreatic cancer.

Is it too far to mention that the deep state has weaponized fast acting cancer (Jack Ruby, Bob Marley, etc)?

This might be worth checking over for info: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5edfbi/today_is_the_1_year_anniversary_of_david_mcgowans/

I think including criticisms helps round out a profile. This criticism says he was 100% controlled opposition (which I don't believe): http://questioningourreality.blogspot.ca/2016/02/did-dave-mcgowan-die-or-did-he-fake-his.html

Link to his work: http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html

~ JasonCarswell (talk) 04:53, 23 July 2017 (IST)


I recommend you put in any material which you think would help give a fuller impression of the life (and death) of David McGowan. -- Robin (talk) 21:41, 23 July 2017 (IST)


2020

So I just discovered InfoGalactic has a stub on DM. I'd always intended to start a WP-style article. I will build it up parallel with WS - as with others. I hadn't seen the 2017 response above before. It might be nice to get PING working on WS. IG doesn't have it but on WP it's invaluable.

Anyway, I was comparing IG to WS info and discovered that WS says he died on Nov 23 and on JFK's assassination anniversary, yet IG says Nov 22 (what a day), and now I found another source that says Nov 22. https://crimesofempire.com/2015/12/18/rip-dave-mcgowan/ Meanwhile I also found http://whale.to/b/mcgowan_h.html states the 23.

Also, there was discussion on SaidIt about a couple quotes in Derailing Democracy that were not cited or dated, and unfortunately it seems possible they are not authentic quotes. I scanned my own copy and will post images with the text (yet to be cleaned up after the OCR) here: https://infogalactic.com/info/Derailing_Democracy_Introduction and if it's okay, also on WikiSpooks. But now I might work on the DM article first before the DD Intro - regardless, I will chip away at them. ~ JasonCarswell (talk) 23:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

"Alissa’s Note: After a courageous and painful six-month battle, Dave passed away on November 22, 2015" [1]

One unsourced quote for which apparently no corroboration has been found was on page 13 of Derailing Democracy ""The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."--Former CIA Director William Colby ‘" it was maybe the one piece of info in the book that had no footnote. If anyone does find corroboration for that, there's a couple forums, who despite Dave's impeccable sourcing otherwise latch onto this one admittedly scathing error, whos faces id love to rub it in."

Another of the unsourced quotes was a lincoln quote about capitalism. The quote is in a couple legit Lincoln books but has been described as coming from a fraudlulent letter. There was no way for any non-historian to suspect or realistically find out other than serendipitously the quote wasn't legit.

Dave's description of a court case related to the Franklin scandal in Programmed to Kill also doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Someone was a no-show for a court date, but the reprecussions for not showing up were not criminal, so it was a win by techinality to the two plantiff's involved at the time. I can't remember the details exactly, but I had to read like 20 pages of an affidavit to reach this conclusion.

His description of the Landslide Productions takedown involving multiple high profile and famous people also fails to address the likelihood that people paying for internet cp in an age predating Tor would have been well-advised to resort to credit card fraud, either stealing or using fake names, to enlist those services. In the book, iirc, he cites credit card information directly as the source of sherriff's claims that so many high profile people were involved AgentTorange (talk) {my key} 04:49, 12 December 2022 (UTC)