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'''The Srebrenica massacre''', also known as the '''Srebrenica genocide''', refers to the July 1995 killing, during the  
 
'''The Srebrenica massacre''', also known as the '''Srebrenica genocide''', refers to the July 1995 killing, during the  
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Bosnian War of Bosnian Muslim men and boys in and around Srebrenica in Bosnia. The western {{ON}} puts the number killed at 8,000; [[Phillip Corwin]], the highest ranking UN official in Sarajrvo at the time, estimates the actual number at probably around 800 - and his career has suffered grievously as a direct result of his honesty in daring to challenge the official orthodoxy.
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Bosnian War of Bosnian Muslim men and boys in and around Srebrenica in Bosnia. The western {{ON}} puts the number killed at 8,000; [[Phillip Corwin]], the highest ranking UN official in Sarajevo at the time, estimates the actual number at probably around 800 - and his career has suffered grievously as a direct result of his honesty in daring to challenge the official orthodoxy.
  
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The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre corresponding Wikipedia page] is a virtual historical compendium of the whole affair from the perspective of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and western establishment orthodoxy. Dissenting opinion is not allowed. This page needs considerable work to properly summarise things from a Serb perspective.
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The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre corresponding Wikipedia page] is a virtual historical compendium of the whole affair from the perspective of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and western establishment orthodoxy. Dissenting opinion is not allowed.
  
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In the meantime the following Wikispooks-hosted documents should be of help to those who understand the propaganda uses to which the affair has been ruthlessly harnessed by the US/NATO [[Project:Definitions|official narrative]].
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This page needs considerable work to properly summarise things from a Serb perspective. In the meantime the following Wikispooks-hosted documents should be of help to those who understand the propaganda uses to which the affair has been ruthlessly harnessed by the US/NATO [[Project:Definitions|official narrative]].
  
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In August 2021, [[Twitter]] and [[Google]] confirmed that they "will be removing content denying Bosnia-Herzegovina's Srebrenica genocide from their social platforms."<ref>https://www.rferl.org/a/bosnia-srebrenica-youtube-twitter/31406437.html</ref>
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==25th anniversary==
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==="60,000 peacekeeping troops needed"===
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On 10 July 2020, daughter [[Emily Thornberry]] wrote a hagiography of [[Cedric Thornberry]] to mark the 25th anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre:
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As deputy chief of the UN mission, [[Cedric Thornberry]] sought to broker talks between the warring parties, and protect minority groups from the threat of ethnic cleansing.
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In October 1992, he and his colleagues warned the UN hierarchy in New York that a minimum force of 60,000 peacekeeping troops would be needed to properly defend the six “safe havens”. But no one listened, or if they did, they could not persuade global leaders to act.
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The following June, after the Serbs bombed a football match in Sarajevo, killing 11 people, including four children, my Dad warned again that “we are terribly thin on the ground”, and blamed governments around the world for not providing the numbers of troops required.
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“In peacekeeping,” he said, “without credibility – you are dead.”
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He was moved out of Bosnia a year later, still furious about how poorly defended the UN’s “safe havens” were, and deeply fearful of what would happen when the Serbs attacked them, not from a distance with shells and snipers, but through ground assaults.
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Nothing changed. And when the butchers rolled into Srebrenica 25 years ago this week, there were still just a few hundred Dutch soldiers in place to deter them, who saw they were massively outnumbered, and turned their backs as the genocide began.
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People sill argue today that those Dutch peacekeepers should feel ashamed, but I know how my dad would respond: that the real shame lies not with them, but with the governments and leaders around the world who thought that a few hundred soldiers were enough. It lies with all those in the international community who heard his warnings growing louder each year and saw the forces surrounding Srebrenica growing larger each month, but still sat on their hands and failed to act, until it was too late.<ref>''[https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/srebrenica-massacre-yugoslavia-bosnia-united-nations-cedric-thornberry-a9610501.html "25 years after the Srebrenica massacre, we cannot turn our backs on foreign intervention"]''</ref>
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A Dutch [[UN]]-sanctioned infantry group known as the Dutchbatters protected Bosnian Muslim man and boys until they were encircled by [[Bosnian]]-[[Serbians]] on the 8th of July [[1995]]<ref>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49042372</ref> in the Yugoslavian civil war in the city of [[Srebenica]]<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre</ref>. According to the official narrative<ref>https://www.spiegel.de/international/dealing-with-genocide-a-dutch-peacekeeper-remembers-srebrenica-a-364902.html</ref>, Dutch UN Lieutenant-Colonel Thom Karremans was denied request for air-support by Dutch general Nicolai two times, and an additional 2 times 3 days later and was only granted two strikes by one plane. That was after they were ordered by Nicolai to head back to Italy for refuelling after circling the area for hours. The US Air Force ''could not find'' these targets and resulted in the second Dutch strike to be aborted as the city was over-run by the army of [[Ratko Mladić]] who immediately threatened to "execute 55 Dutch soldiers". The Dutch were allowed to flee to the VN-base of Potocari. 20.000 of the Bosnian muslins fled to compound surrounding the basis. Thom Karremans was subsequently still ignored by the NATO-leadership and Dutch government and humiliated by Mladic. 2 days later Mladic kidnapped all men and boys (around 8000) of the 20.000 under the eyes of the Dutch infantry, led them away and executed them over a period of 9 days. The last remaining Dutchbat unit entered [[Zagreb]] celebrating with Minister [[Joris Voorhoeve]] a period later.<ref>https://balkaninsight.com/2019/08/08/it-was-hell-dutch-troops-recall-failure-to-stop-srebrenica-deaths/</ref>
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===78 days of US-led terror-bombing===
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On 12 July 2020, [[Stephen Lendman]] wrote:
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{{QB|Big Lies and deception about what happened in Srebrenica a generation ago were part of the 1990s rape of Yugoslavia by the Clinton co-presidency and NATO killing machine.}}
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Events of that time were and remain one of history’s great crimes — killing a nation to advance America’s imperial aims, a scorched earth policy to transform all countries into US vassal states, along with gaining control of their resources and populations.
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The {{ON}} of what happened in Srebrenica reinvented reality — a longstanding US-led Western specialty.
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Big Lies and deception suppressed truth and full disclosure. Repeated by [[establishment]] media, most people to this day are none the wiser.
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Events of the 90s culminated in all-out preemptive war on [[Yugoslavia]] from March 24 – June 10, 1999 — 78 days of US-led terror-bombing.
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Like all wars, what happened was based on ''Big Lies'' and deception.
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So-called [[Operation Noble Anvil]] was an act of infamy against the former Yugoslavia and its people.
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Claims about wanting to counter [[Slobodan Milosevic]]’s aim for a “Greater Serbia” were falsified.
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US aims were and remain all about wanting the country balkanised for easier control, its legitimate leadership replaced by pro-Western puppet rule.
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Milosevic wanted Yugoslavia’s disintegration prevented. He wanted minority Serbs protected. He wanted peace, stability, and cooperative relations with the West, not war.
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US-led aggression replaced Yugoslavia’s market socialism with pro-Western [[neoliberal]] harshness, its people exploited, not served.
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In February 1999, the so-called [[Rambouillet Agreement]] was prelude to war — an ultimatum no responsible leader could accept.
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Designed for rejection, it was an unacceptable take-it-or-leave-it demand.
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It effectively ordered Milosevic to surrender [[Federal Republic of Yugoslavia]] (FRY) sovereignty to a [[NATO]] occupation force.
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It demanded unimpeded access to its land, airspace and territorial waters, as well as any area or facility therein.
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It required the [[FRY]] to let [[NATO]] freely operate outside federal law. Demanding it was outrageous. Milosevic’s justifiable refusal became a pretext for US-led aggression.
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At the time, nobel laureate [[Harold Pinter]] denounced the rape of Yugoslavia.
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Mincing no words, he called US-led terror-bombing and dismemberment of the state “barbaric (and despicable), another blatant and brutal assertion of US power, using NATO as its missile (to consolidate) American domination of Europe.”
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For 78 days, around 600 aircraft flew about 3,000 sorties.
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Thousands of tons of ordnance were dropped, as well as hundreds of ground-launched cruise missiles.
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Its ferocity was unprecedented to that time — military and non-military sites struck.
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Targets included power plants, factories, telecommunication and transportation facilities, roads, bridges and rail lines, fuel depots,  schools, a TV station, [[China]]’s Belgrade embassy, hospitals, government offices, religious sites, historic landmarks and more.
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Throughout the country, terror-bombing raped and destroyed most everything of value, countless numbers of civilians massacred.
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An estimated $100 billion in damage was inflicted — the toll much greater in today’s dollar terms.
 +
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Environmental contamination was extensive. Along with mass slaughter, two million people lost livelihoods, many their homes, communities and futures.
 +
 +
Bosnian Serb leader [[Radovan Karadzic]] and General [[Ratko Mladic]] were subjected to sham trials — both falsely declared guilty by accusation.
 +
 +
Alleged genocide at Srebrenica was more myth than massacre — a ''Big Lie'' that won’t die.
 +
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Deaths were hugely inflated. The [[International Criminal Court]] for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY)  was established to blame victimized Serbs for war crimes committed against them.
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Srebrenica was a combined Muslim military base and refugee “safe area.”
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Serbian President/Federal Republic of Yugoslavia leader Slobodan Milosevic wanted Serbs restrained from overrunning it.
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Before the alleged July 1995 massacre, falsely claiming 8,000 Muslim Bosniak deaths, Srebrenica-based Muslim forces carried out numerous attacks on nearby Serb villages.
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Muslim Sarajevo officials withdrew their Srebrenica commanders, leaving thousands of soldiers leaderless.
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When Bosnian Serb forces captured Srebrenica on July 11, 1995, civilians wanted to leave because of chaotic conditions.
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Women and children were separated from men to locate perpetrators of raids on Serb villages and take revenge.
 +
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A small number alone were detained. Alleged Srebrenica victims reflected lies and half-truths based on what’s known – reality omitted in official and major media accounts to this day.
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The 8,000 number included the Red Cross estimate of 3,000 “witnesses” allegedly detained by Bosnian Serbs, along with another 5,000 the Red Cross said “fled Srebrenica,” many to Central Bosnia.
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They fled for safety and weren’t killed. Years later, forensic teams discovered 2,361 bodies where heavy fighting occurred – including combatants on both sides, not massacred civilians.
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Milosevic, Karadzic, and Mladic were falsely considered guilty by accusation.
 +
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Injustice against them was and remains typical of how imperial USA and its imperial partners blame victims for crimes committed against them.
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Milosevic didn’t survive the ordeal, perishing from willful medical neglect — posthumously exonerated when it was too late to matter.
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Balkanised Yugoslavia is a shadow of its former self, its people exploited by punishing [[neoliberal]] harshness — victimised by the scourge of US imperialism.<ref>''[https://www.globalresearch.ca/25th-anniversary-srebrenica-massacre/5718292 "25th Anniversary of the Srebrenica Massacre Big Lie that Won’t Die"]''</ref>
 
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Event.png Srebrenica Massacre (war crime,  genocide) Rdf-entity.pngRdf-icon.png
Date11 July 1995 - 13 July 1995
LocationSrebrenica,  Bosnia and Herzegovina
Blamed onArmy of the Republika SrpskaScorpions paramilitary group
Witnessed byDutch Army
Deaths8373
Interest ofStefan Karganovic, Wim Kok, Joris Voorhoeve, Andy Wilcoxson

The Srebrenica massacre, also known as the Srebrenica genocide, refers to the July 1995 killing, during the Bosnian War of Bosnian Muslim men and boys in and around Srebrenica in Bosnia. The western Official Narrative puts the number killed at 8,000; Phillip Corwin, the highest ranking UN official in Sarajevo at the time, estimates the actual number at probably around 800 - and his career has suffered grievously as a direct result of his honesty in daring to challenge the official orthodoxy.

The corresponding Wikipedia page is a virtual historical compendium of the whole affair from the perspective of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and western establishment orthodoxy. Dissenting opinion is not allowed.

This page needs considerable work to properly summarise things from a Serb perspective. In the meantime the following Wikispooks-hosted documents should be of help to those who understand the propaganda uses to which the affair has been ruthlessly harnessed by the US/NATO official narrative.

In August 2021, Twitter and Google confirmed that they "will be removing content denying Bosnia-Herzegovina's Srebrenica genocide from their social platforms."[1]

25th anniversary

"The truth matters not just to the players but to the victims and their relatives, it's there somewhere in the files in the hay and government offices around the world but national governments have fought to ensure the truth can never be known by blacking out key evidence presented to the court and insisting key documents remain secret." - BBC 2009.

"60,000 peacekeeping troops needed"

On 10 July 2020, daughter Emily Thornberry wrote a hagiography of Cedric Thornberry to mark the 25th anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre: As deputy chief of the UN mission, Cedric Thornberry sought to broker talks between the warring parties, and protect minority groups from the threat of ethnic cleansing. In October 1992, he and his colleagues warned the UN hierarchy in New York that a minimum force of 60,000 peacekeeping troops would be needed to properly defend the six “safe havens”. But no one listened, or if they did, they could not persuade global leaders to act. The following June, after the Serbs bombed a football match in Sarajevo, killing 11 people, including four children, my Dad warned again that “we are terribly thin on the ground”, and blamed governments around the world for not providing the numbers of troops required. “In peacekeeping,” he said, “without credibility – you are dead.” He was moved out of Bosnia a year later, still furious about how poorly defended the UN’s “safe havens” were, and deeply fearful of what would happen when the Serbs attacked them, not from a distance with shells and snipers, but through ground assaults. Nothing changed. And when the butchers rolled into Srebrenica 25 years ago this week, there were still just a few hundred Dutch soldiers in place to deter them, who saw they were massively outnumbered, and turned their backs as the genocide began.

People sill argue today that those Dutch peacekeepers should feel ashamed, but I know how my dad would respond: that the real shame lies not with them, but with the governments and leaders around the world who thought that a few hundred soldiers were enough. It lies with all those in the international community who heard his warnings growing louder each year and saw the forces surrounding Srebrenica growing larger each month, but still sat on their hands and failed to act, until it was too late.[2]

A Dutch UN-sanctioned infantry group known as the Dutchbatters protected Bosnian Muslim man and boys until they were encircled by Bosnian-Serbians on the 8th of July 1995[3] in the Yugoslavian civil war in the city of Srebenica[4]. According to the official narrative[5], Dutch UN Lieutenant-Colonel Thom Karremans was denied request for air-support by Dutch general Nicolai two times, and an additional 2 times 3 days later and was only granted two strikes by one plane. That was after they were ordered by Nicolai to head back to Italy for refuelling after circling the area for hours. The US Air Force could not find these targets and resulted in the second Dutch strike to be aborted as the city was over-run by the army of Ratko Mladić who immediately threatened to "execute 55 Dutch soldiers". The Dutch were allowed to flee to the VN-base of Potocari. 20.000 of the Bosnian muslins fled to compound surrounding the basis. Thom Karremans was subsequently still ignored by the NATO-leadership and Dutch government and humiliated by Mladic. 2 days later Mladic kidnapped all men and boys (around 8000) of the 20.000 under the eyes of the Dutch infantry, led them away and executed them over a period of 9 days. The last remaining Dutchbat unit entered Zagreb celebrating with Minister Joris Voorhoeve a period later.[6]


78 days of US-led terror-bombing

On 12 July 2020, Stephen Lendman wrote:

Big Lies and deception about what happened in Srebrenica a generation ago were part of the 1990s rape of Yugoslavia by the Clinton co-presidency and NATO killing machine.

Events of that time were and remain one of history’s great crimes — killing a nation to advance America’s imperial aims, a scorched earth policy to transform all countries into US vassal states, along with gaining control of their resources and populations.

The Official Narrative of what happened in Srebrenica reinvented reality — a longstanding US-led Western specialty.

Big Lies and deception suppressed truth and full disclosure. Repeated by establishment media, most people to this day are none the wiser.

Events of the 90s culminated in all-out preemptive war on Yugoslavia from March 24 – June 10, 1999 — 78 days of US-led terror-bombing.

Like all wars, what happened was based on Big Lies and deception.

So-called Operation Noble Anvil was an act of infamy against the former Yugoslavia and its people.

Claims about wanting to counter Slobodan Milosevic’s aim for a “Greater Serbia” were falsified.

US aims were and remain all about wanting the country balkanised for easier control, its legitimate leadership replaced by pro-Western puppet rule.

Milosevic wanted Yugoslavia’s disintegration prevented. He wanted minority Serbs protected. He wanted peace, stability, and cooperative relations with the West, not war.

US-led aggression replaced Yugoslavia’s market socialism with pro-Western neoliberal harshness, its people exploited, not served.

In February 1999, the so-called Rambouillet Agreement was prelude to war — an ultimatum no responsible leader could accept.

Designed for rejection, it was an unacceptable take-it-or-leave-it demand.

It effectively ordered Milosevic to surrender Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY) sovereignty to a NATO occupation force.

It demanded unimpeded access to its land, airspace and territorial waters, as well as any area or facility therein.

It required the FRY to let NATO freely operate outside federal law. Demanding it was outrageous. Milosevic’s justifiable refusal became a pretext for US-led aggression.

At the time, nobel laureate Harold Pinter denounced the rape of Yugoslavia.

Mincing no words, he called US-led terror-bombing and dismemberment of the state “barbaric (and despicable), another blatant and brutal assertion of US power, using NATO as its missile (to consolidate) American domination of Europe.”

For 78 days, around 600 aircraft flew about 3,000 sorties.

Thousands of tons of ordnance were dropped, as well as hundreds of ground-launched cruise missiles.

Its ferocity was unprecedented to that time — military and non-military sites struck.

Targets included power plants, factories, telecommunication and transportation facilities, roads, bridges and rail lines, fuel depots, schools, a TV station, China’s Belgrade embassy, hospitals, government offices, religious sites, historic landmarks and more.

Throughout the country, terror-bombing raped and destroyed most everything of value, countless numbers of civilians massacred.

An estimated $100 billion in damage was inflicted — the toll much greater in today’s dollar terms.

Environmental contamination was extensive. Along with mass slaughter, two million people lost livelihoods, many their homes, communities and futures.

Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic and General Ratko Mladic were subjected to sham trials — both falsely declared guilty by accusation.

Alleged genocide at Srebrenica was more myth than massacre — a Big Lie that won’t die.

Deaths were hugely inflated. The International Criminal Court for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) was established to blame victimized Serbs for war crimes committed against them.

Srebrenica was a combined Muslim military base and refugee “safe area.”

Serbian President/Federal Republic of Yugoslavia leader Slobodan Milosevic wanted Serbs restrained from overrunning it.

Before the alleged July 1995 massacre, falsely claiming 8,000 Muslim Bosniak deaths, Srebrenica-based Muslim forces carried out numerous attacks on nearby Serb villages.

Muslim Sarajevo officials withdrew their Srebrenica commanders, leaving thousands of soldiers leaderless.

When Bosnian Serb forces captured Srebrenica on July 11, 1995, civilians wanted to leave because of chaotic conditions.

Women and children were separated from men to locate perpetrators of raids on Serb villages and take revenge.

A small number alone were detained. Alleged Srebrenica victims reflected lies and half-truths based on what’s known – reality omitted in official and major media accounts to this day.

The 8,000 number included the Red Cross estimate of 3,000 “witnesses” allegedly detained by Bosnian Serbs, along with another 5,000 the Red Cross said “fled Srebrenica,” many to Central Bosnia.

They fled for safety and weren’t killed. Years later, forensic teams discovered 2,361 bodies where heavy fighting occurred – including combatants on both sides, not massacred civilians.

Milosevic, Karadzic, and Mladic were falsely considered guilty by accusation.

Injustice against them was and remains typical of how imperial USA and its imperial partners blame victims for crimes committed against them.

Milosevic didn’t survive the ordeal, perishing from willful medical neglect — posthumously exonerated when it was too late to matter.

Balkanised Yugoslavia is a shadow of its former self, its people exploited by punishing neoliberal harshness — victimised by the scourge of US imperialism.[7]

 

Event

Event
Srebrenica Massacre

 

Witness

WitnessDescription
Netherlands/ArmyProsecuted for war crimes in Iraq, Indonesia & Bosnia. Their role in the Srebrenica massacre is particularly sketchy.

 

Related Documents

TitleTypePublication dateAuthor(s)Description
Document:International Injustice: the Conviction of Radovan Karadzicarticle30 March 2016Diana JohnstoneCommentary on the guilty verdict on Radovan Karadzic by the International Criminal Court on 24 March 2016
Document:Ratko Mladic Interviewinterview26 August 2011CNN
Document:Srebrenica Dissectedarticle6 August 2011Editorial staff
Document:Srebrenica Shroud of Secrecy on DNA Evidencewebpage11 August 2011Andy Wilcoxson
Document:Srebrenica Was An Inside Jobwebpage7 August 2011Andy Wilcoxson
Document:Why We Need to Remember Srebrenicaarticle3 December 2015Zarah SultanaZarah Sultana, then a student at the University of Birmingham, wrote an article about her trip to Srebrenica
File:Srebrenica 1995-2015-Just the facts.pdfbookletJuly 2015Stefan Karganovic
Aleksandar Pavic		A compendium of facts about the so-called 'Srebrenica genocide' published to coincide with the 20th anniversary of the events the term purposts to describe
File:Srebrenica massacre.pdfbook2011Phillip Corwin
George Bogdanich
Tim Fenton
Jonathan Rooper
George Szamuely
Michael Mandel
Philip Hammond (Ac)
Edward Herman		Forensic examination of the event that has come to be known as "The Srebrenica Massacre" in the western mainstrean narrative of the break-up of the former Yugoslavia

 

The Official Culprit

Name
Army of the Republika SrpskaScorpions paramilitary group
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References

  1. ↑ https://www.rferl.org/a/bosnia-srebrenica-youtube-twitter/31406437.html
  2. ↑ "25 years after the Srebrenica massacre, we cannot turn our backs on foreign intervention"
  3. ↑ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49042372
  4. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
  5. ↑ https://www.spiegel.de/international/dealing-with-genocide-a-dutch-peacekeeper-remembers-srebrenica-a-364902.html
  6. ↑ https://balkaninsight.com/2019/08/08/it-was-hell-dutch-troops-recall-failure-to-stop-srebrenica-deaths/
  7. ↑ "25th Anniversary of the Srebrenica Massacre Big Lie that Won’t Die"
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