Talk:COVID-19/Medical killings

I'll change this one to the sharper "/medical murder" or "/protocol murder" if there are no objections Terje (talk) 05:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Neither of those phrases are familiar to me - how about just "/Murder"? -- Robin (talk) 17:24, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

I object. The article tries to talk about a lot of different policies that could use their own page, (Population reduction, censorship of alternative treatments, Triage, medical order, Crony capitalism/Corporatocracy). Euthanasia isn't the right word to describe them, but murder would be imho too harsh on the doctors themselves. /Murder would imply all these doctors have deliberately murdered these people described on the page (it is in most cases a balancing triangle of the chief residents of a hospital yelling at everyone in the department or ward, the Pharmacy and Therapeutics committee trying to make a buck on their medicine connects and paid off medical guidelines supporting the use of them, as other residents can't even access the medical file as they aren't placed next to the bed anymore, so the other residents helping the assigned doc would go by mouth-to-mouth reporting of the assigned doc). Most are useful idiots: Most didn't know turning on ventilators killed their healthy patients, they mostly just followed orders, and the compartmentalization of a hospital in general helped a lot. The moment you fire a patient instead of tubing them you'd get scolded by the chief resident or chief physician if he has deep state-like crony capitalistic orders. I know it sounds like the Nuremberg defense. But I don't deny these doctors did commit murder is most cases. It's that they didn't know they did. Legally what you want to describe is negligent homicide in most of our reader's jurisdictions. COVID-19/Negligent Homicide? My voice btw would also go to /Medical Protocols. Jun (talk) 17:41, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

These are good points. How about /Standard protocols with |constitutes=murder ? -- Robin (talk) 18:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Fine with me. Jun (talk) 20:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

It might be negligent or corrupt at lower levels, but many of the policies were planned from up high specifically to increase the death numbers, to create the illusion of a pandemic. I realize more and more that "Medical Protocols" or "Standard Protocols", iatrogenic deaths or euthanasia are too tame terms to describe that. "Protocol killings", "medical killings"?

Terje (talk) 22:57, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Killing is in most jurisdictions killing someone or something without intent. Fine with me. I would suggest medical or medical protocol killings and not protocol killings. As a lot of different workplaces use protocols, so if the page would be solely about medical homicides, readers could get confused. Jun (talk) 21:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3498992/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=last+week+tonight+medical