Talk:Water/Fluoridation

Documentary

There is a documentary who does a good job in bringing facts together: Fluoride: Poison On Tap - Full Documentary. It, however, also has some flaws in explanation, but so far it is the best thing I have seen and it directed me to the book The fluoride deception. The big problem is, it references Alex Jones. One of the interviewed people says he teamed up with A.Jones and created some substance that will counter the effects of fluoride (it seems to be the black stuff in small bottles that Jones sells in his store - https://youtu.be/GqstwfKGzPI?t=1h25m50s). The documentary has - in my opinion - some quality, good intention and is free. Alex Jones in it is a sort of sponsoring (Infowars logo is on a few occasions displayed when they use his footage). Does it make sense, to reference the documentary here? -- ‎Sunvalley (talk) 20:22, 11 August 2016 (IST)

Referencing the documentary somewhere and/or making a separate page for it both seem like productive options. If you have reservations, e.g. about the sponsorship from Alex Jones, then be sure to include them on the page. You could use Template:Publication like I did for Operation Gladio (film). -- Robin (talk) 03:47, 12 August 2016 (IST)

WW2 concentration camps?

Robin - I tried to get there (for a while I would say, heard it first in a lecture by D Icke). The article starts with the words of "a German reporter", no citation - it says: "Ref. book: The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben by Joseph Borkin". You can search that book on Google or lend a copy on the archive. The text search brings nothing for: fluoride, fluorine and fluoridation. Water or water supply is mentioned seven times, all not in connection with chemicals that are to be put into it. Then a letter "received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins" is mentioned.

In the alleged letter sent by Perkins he mentions his book: 'The Truth About Water Fluoridation' which you can request a copy of here: [1]. In the book there is no mention of concentrations camps, only "the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff", it (the short book) describes the effort as a communist conspiracy, but is mostly concerned with the effects. The Lee foundation does not exist anymore, the FDA tried to destroy their document in the 60s and what is left is continued in the International Foundation for Nutrition and Health [2]. FWIW Politifact reached out to Christopher Bryson [3] who replied: "I never came across any documentation or credible information showing that fluoride was used in Nazi death camps,". So the sources used in the article (the ones you can really get to) do not speak about fluoride in concentration camps and I could think the letter has never existed, is just what was copied from one place to the other [4]. -- Sunvalley (talk) 00:05, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

This is a rather extraordinary claim without extraordinary evidence. I've left it commented out, as a reminder to be careful of this. The Nazi death camp is such a powerful enemy image, I can also believe this was cooked up as a propaganda tool. Well spotted. -- Robin (talk) 11:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)