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From [[Wikispooks:Standardisation#Subpages]]: ''Wikispooks uses mediawiki subpages to indicate a hierarchical (dependent) relationship. A page title of the form A/B can be read as "the B of A".'' That would make this "the Wagner coup attempt of [the] 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", which is doesn't quite work for me. Although the two pages correspond to events which are obviously connected, it's ''not a hierarchical relationship'', as in, say, [[JFK/Assassination/Foreknowledge]] - in which the bits of the title are clearly not feasible on their own. Accordingly, I suggest that this would be better moved to a top level page. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 
From [[Wikispooks:Standardisation#Subpages]]: ''Wikispooks uses mediawiki subpages to indicate a hierarchical (dependent) relationship. A page title of the form A/B can be read as "the B of A".'' That would make this "the Wagner coup attempt of [the] 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", which is doesn't quite work for me. Although the two pages correspond to events which are obviously connected, it's ''not a hierarchical relationship'', as in, say, [[JFK/Assassination/Foreknowledge]] - in which the bits of the title are clearly not feasible on their own. Accordingly, I suggest that this would be better moved to a top level page. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:I disagree, as they allegedly tried to coup the entire invasion by trying to held the command in Rostov hostage; had the alleged backing of 30 high ranking Russian officials and even afterwards; took over the most important military command district of Russia and wanted to remove and replace Shogou and Gerasimov. Wagner Telegram said "there will be a new president soon" (this I'd doubt a little, as Putin met with Wagner leadership days after). So, I would understand that as, it was a Wagner coup attempt of ''the entire the Russian invasion''. I believe there is a hierarchical relationship because this would prob have never happened without the "SPO", that's why I made it a subpage. but if you still disagree or I haven't implemented the standardisation correctly, feel free to move it. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:I disagree, as they allegedly tried to coup the entire invasion by trying to held the command in Rostov hostage; had the alleged backing of 30 high ranking Russian officials and even afterwards; took over the most important military command district of Russia and wanted to remove and replace Shogou and Gerasimov. Wagner Telegram said "there will be a new president soon" (this I'd doubt a little, as Putin met with Wagner leadership days after). So, I would understand that as, it was a Wagner coup attempt of ''the entire the Russian invasion''. I believe there is a hierarchical relationship because this would prob have never happened without the "SPO", that's why I made it a subpage. but if you still disagree or I haven't implemented the standardisation correctly, feel free to move it. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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::I suggest making [Wagner coup attempt] a subpage of Wagner Group or combine with Wagner group page. [[User:Suresh|Suresh]] ([[User talk:Suresh|talk]]) 23:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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::: Having read all the sources on this sub-page and researched into that separately from that site again, I still stand by my point, people like to see most things as false flags or this event as an "impulsive" action it appeared to be, but this appears to be much more complex than it was presented. [https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wagner_Group_rebellion#Planning_the_rebellion]. [[User:Jun|Jun, Administrator.]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 00:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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From Wikispooks:Standardisation#Subpages: Wikispooks uses mediawiki subpages to indicate a hierarchical (dependent) relationship. A page title of the form A/B can be read as "the B of A". That would make this "the Wagner coup attempt of [the] 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", which is doesn't quite work for me. Although the two pages correspond to events which are obviously connected, it's not a hierarchical relationship, as in, say, JFK/Assassination/Foreknowledge - in which the bits of the title are clearly not feasible on their own. Accordingly, I suggest that this would be better moved to a top level page. -- Robin (talk) 16:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

I disagree, as they allegedly tried to coup the entire invasion by trying to held the command in Rostov hostage; had the alleged backing of 30 high ranking Russian officials and even afterwards; took over the most important military command district of Russia and wanted to remove and replace Shogou and Gerasimov. Wagner Telegram said "there will be a new president soon" (this I'd doubt a little, as Putin met with Wagner leadership days after). So, I would understand that as, it was a Wagner coup attempt of the entire the Russian invasion. I believe there is a hierarchical relationship because this would prob have never happened without the "SPO", that's why I made it a subpage. but if you still disagree or I haven't implemented the standardisation correctly, feel free to move it. Jun (talk) 20:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
I suggest making [Wagner coup attempt] a subpage of Wagner Group or combine with Wagner group page. Suresh (talk) 23:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Having read all the sources on this sub-page and researched into that separately from that site again, I still stand by my point, people like to see most things as false flags or this event as an "impulsive" action it appeared to be, but this appears to be much more complex than it was presented. [1]. Jun, Administrator. (talk) 00:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)