Difference between revisions of "Talk:Dominic Cummings"

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::Yes, you're correct. I've just given it a tidy, and removed the image caption which had become repetitious. Such colourful 3rd party language ''can'' be helpful, but should not be overused lest it drag the article down to a "he said... she said..." trading of insults. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::Yes, you're correct. I've just given it a tidy, and removed the image caption which had become repetitious. Such colourful 3rd party language ''can'' be helpful, but should not be overused lest it drag the article down to a "he said... she said..." trading of insults. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::On that trading of insults theme, [[User:Robin|Robin]], I see ''[[The Guardian]]'' reported that [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/dominic-cummings-a-career-psychopath-in-downing-street Dominic Cummings retaliated by calling David Cameron "a sphinx without a riddle".]
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:::The tidied lede doesn't say what position Cummings now occupies nor who appointed him. Maybe we should simply adopt the [[Wikipedia]] lede:
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::::Dominic Mckenzie Cummings is a British political strategist who in 2019 was appointed [[Special Adviser]] to [[Prime Minister of the United Kingdom|Prime Minister]] [[Boris Johnson]]. From 2015 to 2016, Cummings served as the Campaign Director of [[Vote Leave]], the successful campaign advocating for the UK to vote to leave the [[European Union]] in the [[2016 EU Referendum]]. Between 2007 to 2014, he worked as Special Adviser to the then [[Education Secretary]], [[Michael Gove]].--[[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick Haseldine]] ([[User talk:Patrick Haseldine|talk]]) 10:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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Passive voice generally deprecated

I've never heard of Dominic Cummings, so this is not a point about him, but I recommend the active voice rather than the passive voice, since readers may wish to know who said something, especially if the speaker has a page entry already. If not, a link shows readers this and encourages editors to make a page. -- Robin (talk) 10:47, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I was quoting the opening line of The Canary article: "Dominic Cummings is an unelected bureaucrat who’s described as 'assistant to the prime minister', with responsibilities for Brexit and domestic policy", but I omitted the "with responsibilities for Brexit and domestic policy" bit.
So isn't Tom Coburg the one who should be credited as the active voice, rather than The Guardian's Patrick Wintour?--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 14:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, you're correct. I've just given it a tidy, and removed the image caption which had become repetitious. Such colourful 3rd party language can be helpful, but should not be overused lest it drag the article down to a "he said... she said..." trading of insults. -- Robin (talk) 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
On that trading of insults theme, Robin, I see The Guardian reported that Dominic Cummings retaliated by calling David Cameron "a sphinx without a riddle".
The tidied lede doesn't say what position Cummings now occupies nor who appointed him. Maybe we should simply adopt the Wikipedia lede:
Dominic Mckenzie Cummings is a British political strategist who in 2019 was appointed Special Adviser to Prime Minister Boris Johnson. From 2015 to 2016, Cummings served as the Campaign Director of Vote Leave, the successful campaign advocating for the UK to vote to leave the European Union in the 2016 EU Referendum. Between 2007 to 2014, he worked as Special Adviser to the then Education Secretary, Michael Gove.--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 10:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)