User talk:Blissyu2

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Organising material

I know very little about the Port Arthur Massacre myself, but I've just restructured your work on that page in the hope that it will help you assemble the evidence. I agree with you that factual and well referenced is a good pattern to stick to. Some conjecture is acceptable where it is logical and clearly marked as such. Gradual laying out of the evidence (possibly over a range of pages) is a good first step. Robin (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2015 (IST)

Thanks Robin. Yeah it is a bit hard to know where to start with it. With there being the most comprehensive suppression order in Australian history in place, there is a lot of evidence that simply isn't available for legal reasons, so it is a bit hard to know whether I should be referring to that stuff or just sticking to guessing. The suppression order only lasts for 30 years though, so come 2026 you will be seeing a lot of it released. Blissyu2 (talk) 01:21, 16 May 2015 (IST)

Suppression of evidence

That's noteworthy in itself. A valuable parallel with JFK assassination, 7 July 2005 London bombings, Russian apartment bombings... Robin (talk) 05:50, 16 May 2015 (IST)

It's hardly the only one to have suppression of evidence in it. Soon after this, there was an event known as the Bodies in the Barrel murders, where people were killed so as to get their welfare cheques, including some of the original murderers being killed by some of the later murderers! That one had major suppression orders about large sections of the evidence, but, as far as I know, there is absolutely no conspiracy theory about it. I have certainly never heard of one. So having a suppression order does not equal a conspiracy theory.

If I recall, the rationale for the suppression orders being so enormous was because of the claimed motive for the Port Arthur massacre, which was that Martin Bryant wanted publicity. To deal with that desire for publicity, there was an outright ban on all publications about any of it without having explicit permission from a judge over it. There have been about 10 books written about it, but, as you may guess, they all push the official line. There is no book that has ever been published about it that in any way disputes the official story. The reason is simple: you can go to jail if you publish anything without their permission.

There is, however, a fair degree of freedom with what can be put on the internet about this. You can't put it in a printed newspaper, but you can put it on the internet.

But you still can't say everything. I happen to know the name and identity of the person who did it, but I am not allowed to say it or risk criminal prosecution. I can, however, have theories. Blissyu2 (talk) 07:57, 16 May 2015 (IST)

So anyway the issue is that the suppression order is not easily available. While its existence was spoken about on TV, I can't find a direct link to it anywhere on the internet. It is pretty obvious that it exists, but I'd greatly prefer it if there was proof of it. I don't want to say it exists if there is no proof of it. The Bodies in the Barrel suppression order, in comparison, is available.

By the way, as a side note, I came across this photo from the Boston Marathon bombing discussion yesterday: http://imgur.com/r/POLITIC/WT3TIX5 . It seems to blame the whole thing on Craft International, led by the guy from American Sniper, Chris Kyle. Why they did it, though, remains a mystery. Of note, Chris Kyle died 2 months before the Boston Marathon bombing. That is kind of in line with my theory as to what happened, which is that it was a regular criminal attack by persons unknown and they simply blamed Muslims and pretended it was terrorism in line of the anti-Muslim rhetoric that justifies war in the Middle East. The guys who did it may have just been crazy guys from Craft International who did it for their own crazy reasons. That's basically what happened in the Sydney Siege, though at least in that case nobody is disputing who did it. There are significant question marks as to whether that Russian boy did the Boston marathon bombing. Blissyu2 (talk) 08:08, 16 May 2015 (IST)