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:Makes sense, but in practice, quite difficult to tell the two apart. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 12:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC) | :Makes sense, but in practice, quite difficult to tell the two apart. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 12:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
::Why not use Intelligence terms? Agent of Influence and Useful idiot are known terms in political and intelligence circles and used by corporate media & Hollywood. Although I prefer DSF, for the record. --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC) | ::Why not use Intelligence terms? Agent of Influence and Useful idiot are known terms in political and intelligence circles and used by corporate media & Hollywood. Although I prefer DSF, for the record. --[[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :::It is easier to stick to only DSF. "Useful idiot" and "deep state tool" are a bit to negative, although very fitting in many cases. "Agent of Influence" is handy, but maybe to subjective. | ||
+ | [[User:Terje|Terje]] ([[User talk:Terje|talk]]) 23:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC) |
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Deep state tool?
Deep state tool redirects here. I wonder whether this might be worth separating from deep state functionary. If so, how would the meanings be separated?... -- Robin (talk) 15:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
I see only 5 people with deep state tool at the moment: Neil Ferguson,Daniel Andrews,Karl Lauterbach ,Mark McGowan (Australian politician),Jens Spahn . I suppose a tool is too stupid/ignorant to realize he/she is being used, while a functionary just follows orders. Terje (talk) 23:50, 2 May 2022 (UTC)---
- Makes sense, but in practice, quite difficult to tell the two apart. -- Robin (talk) 12:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is easier to stick to only DSF. "Useful idiot" and "deep state tool" are a bit to negative, although very fitting in many cases. "Agent of Influence" is handy, but maybe to subjective.