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Moved from 'z' page. TS, I ask you to re-consider the description. The elites and powers driving the Globalisation end-game are, by definition, trans-national and so cannot be accurately described as THE 'Deep State' when there are many States, each with its own 'Deep' elements. Globalist individuals have varying degrees of (outwardly expressed) loyalty to this or that State, but for those at the top, such loyalties are nothing more than the means to an end - flag-waving to herd the gullible IOW. It is a difficult area with terminology more slippery than usual but I feel we must try to be as precise as possible - even if it involves developing and refining existing woolly terminology. --Peter P (talk) 17:39, 31 August 2014 (IST)