Talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Timeline

We could try a "timeline" for this, possibly with a different article heading ("Russia-Ukraine war" or similar?). This war could be a short affair or expand into WW3. I regret not being active on the Covid timeline. Terje (talk) 07:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)---

Reliable information is hard to get by, from either side at this time. Please share your favorite sources. I'll start with: http://thesaker.is/ Urban (talk) 08:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Marko at https://anti-empire.com and https://off-guardian.org/ both give excellent perspective. Terje (talk) 06:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)---
Apart from not renaming this page for now, the timelin in hcard is something I did try at the 2014 coup page, but it looked buggy or I didn't understood it. I'd need to try it on a sandbox before trying it out. As I don't really grasp how it works in the SMWQ. --Jun (talk) 22:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Pagename

Looking at our other wars (list), I see 2 named an "invasion", the United States invasion of Panama and the Afghanistan/2001 Invasion, despite that most of the wars listed have an invader. I suggest renaming this one, but will bow to consensus. "2022 Russian-Ukrainian War"? Terje (talk) 06:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)---

I opt for the more neutral "war", but maybe a redirect does it, because search engines have already crawled this pagename. Urban (talk) 08:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
I think search engines are good at dealing with mediawiki & namechanges nowadays, so that shouldn't be a big factor. One common element of the other two invasions is a power imbalance, and a long distance between the two parties, only the former of which is true here. "Invasion" feels like quite an accurate description for now. If it goes on for ages and/or otherwise acquires more characteristics of a "war", we can revisit this topic then. -- Robin (talk) 15:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Blacklisted by google

The search "Russian invasion of Ukraine‎‎ wikispooks" is blacklisted by google now. Yahoo and Duckduckgo report it as 1. hit though. Urban (talk) 21:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

This happens sometimes for a day or 2. According to internal data this week is the still the most busy week for us in at least 1 year.

Google is still responsible for 45-55% of search engines share to find access us for today. And ~30% of complete share in linking to us. A peculiar point to make is that unlike most sites, our visitors are already quite tech savvy, they use duck duck go more often and a significant share appear to access our site directly (by bookmarking us or remembering our from memory or as routine visitors (e.g: recent visit/start-pages in chrome, Opera & Firefox). https://wikispooks.com/piwik/index.php?module=CoreHome&action=index&idSite=1&period=day&date=2022-02-28#?module=Dashboard&action=embeddedIndex&idSite=1&period=day&date=2022-02-28&idDashboard=1

So apart from the fact it wouldn't be something to really anticipate on for now, just wait to see if this situation changes. You can always try to get more market share by promoting the site on our social media. (Telegram, Twitter, Reddit, NOT Facebook as that's run by someone unknown to us). I've send you the Twitter and Reddit and Gab login data. Telegram is run by Terje, ask him him you want to share knowledge of this. --Jun (talk) 21:46, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Remover content

The following has been debunked and therefore removed; "When the USSR broke apart in 1990, Russia (then represented by Gorbachev) was promised that NATO would not expand eastward. The promise was broken from beginning." Please try to study this kind of info before adding it. See: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/

Please try to add the sources while removing segment that already are "backed up with refs". We now several parts explained two times in different headers. --Jun (talk) 14:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate your edits. Great improvement. I did not intend to remove any content BTW, did I? I suspect Gorbi was in on it (his Club of Rome quote about a "New World Order") and if he denies the "well known" promise, this would fit in very well. Urban (talk) 18:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)