Talk:Wagner Group

Info: The current "Death" section (for Prigozhin) refers to ccm articles that cite a "Wagner-aligned" Telegram channel, "Grey Zone". I will note that Jacob Dreizin, possibly the most informed English language commentator on the war, has written that: "I’ve previously identified “Grey Zone” Telegram channel (576,000 followers but PERMANENTLY, TOTALLY IGNORED by all Russian patriotic channels and commentators since early-mid 2022) as a leading pseudo-Russian, Ukrainian Psychological Operations Command front entity." -- Sunvalley (talk) 23:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree, on Grey Zone being cited everywhere being shady, that's why I added two more sources (apart from the fact he can be still alive). But how did he expose them? I can only find him saying that, not how. Anyway, Wikispooks has a post all as long as you have refs policy, so feel free to add that Gray Zone is accused of being a Ukrainian Psyop. Jun (talk) 02:05, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Is just as info, amounts not to much right now. Dreizin also has 3-10 minute mp3 audio files uploaded in the articles + Rumble/Youtube videos + occasional interview. He might have mentioned it in passing, but am not sure either. While we are at it, Grey Zone is said to have uploaded a video (others than ccm say this as well but no archive that I am aware of) with the execution of a Russian convict who fought with Wagner then defected to Ukraine but was sent back. In the video he get's murdered with a hammer. Then Wagner sends a hammer to the European Union. Prigozhin at one point commented that the execution of this traitor was a good thing .. this tends to indicate a connection to Wagner but nothing showed on their channel at the time (I looked, maybe they deleted shortly after publication) so still not sure what is what with this channel. -- Sunvalley (talk) 22:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC)