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I agree, on Grey Zone being cited everywhere being shady, that's why I added two more sources (apart from the fact he can be still alive). But how did he expose them? I can only find him saying that, not how. | I agree, on Grey Zone being cited everywhere being shady, that's why I added two more sources (apart from the fact he can be still alive). But how did he expose them? I can only find him saying that, not how. | ||
Anyway, Wikispooks has a post all as long as you have refs policy, so feel free to add that Gray Zone is accused of being a Ukrainian Psyop. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 02:05, 27 August 2023 (UTC) | Anyway, Wikispooks has a post all as long as you have refs policy, so feel free to add that Gray Zone is accused of being a Ukrainian Psyop. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 02:05, 27 August 2023 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :Is just as info, amounts not to much right now. Dreizin also has 3-10 minute mp3 audio files uploaded in the articles + Rumble/Youtube videos + occasional interview. He might have mentioned it in passing, but am not sure either. While we are at it, Grey Zone is said to have uploaded a video (others than ccm say this as well but no archive that I am aware of) with the execution of a Russian convict who fought with wagner then defected to Ukraine but was sent back.<ref>https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sledgehammer-execution-russian-mercenary-who-defected-ukraine-shown-video-2022-11-13/</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Yevgeny_Nuzhin</ref> In the video he get's murdered with a hammer.Then Wagner sends a hammer to the European Union.<ref>https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/wagner-group-sends-eu-parliament-a-message-with-bloodied-hammer-kr6tfr7vc</ref> -- [[User:Sunvalley|Sunvalley]] ([[User talk:Sunvalley|talk]]) 22:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC) | ||
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Revision as of 22:05, 31 August 2023
Info: The current "Death" section (for Prigozhin) refers to ccm articles that cite a "Wagner-aligned" Telegram channel, "Grey Zone". I will note that Jacob Dreizin, possibly the most informed English language commentator on the war, has written that: "I’ve previously identified “Grey Zone” Telegram channel (576,000 followers but PERMANENTLY, TOTALLY IGNORED by all Russian patriotic channels and commentators since early-mid 2022) as a leading pseudo-Russian, Ukrainian Psychological Operations Command front entity." -- Sunvalley (talk) 23:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
I agree, on Grey Zone being cited everywhere being shady, that's why I added two more sources (apart from the fact he can be still alive). But how did he expose them? I can only find him saying that, not how. Anyway, Wikispooks has a post all as long as you have refs policy, so feel free to add that Gray Zone is accused of being a Ukrainian Psyop. Jun (talk) 02:05, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Is just as info, amounts not to much right now. Dreizin also has 3-10 minute mp3 audio files uploaded in the articles + Rumble/Youtube videos + occasional interview. He might have mentioned it in passing, but am not sure either. While we are at it, Grey Zone is said to have uploaded a video (others than ccm say this as well but no archive that I am aware of) with the execution of a Russian convict who fought with wagner then defected to Ukraine but was sent back.[1][2] In the video he get's murdered with a hammer.Then Wagner sends a hammer to the European Union.[3] -- Sunvalley (talk) 22:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
