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Where does the 14:15 GMT come from for the last contact? Malaysia Airways via Kiev ATC? --Two Dogs (talk) 19:15, 17 August 2014 (IST)

Looks to me like they are intended as approximations but that that GMT has also been confused with BST which is 1 hour ahead. It does indicate a certain shoddiness in the map production though. It's to avoid precisely that confusion that I have been careful to specify UTC on the timeline events --Peter P (talk) 19:49, 17 August 2014 (IST)

Oops - even more shoddiness. The Take-off time number IS correct - in UTC - but the 'Last-contact' number is not --Peter P (talk) 20:10, 17 August 2014 (IST)

If you trace it back far enough, I think you'll find that the 14:15 comes from:

Friday, July 18, 12:30 AM GMT +0800 Media Statement 1: MH17 Incident...Malaysia Airlines confirms it received notification from Ukrainian ATC that it had lost contact with flight MH17 at 1415 (GMT) at 30km from Tamak waypoint, approximately 50km from the Russia-Ukraine border. --Two Dogs (talk) 20:12, 17 August 2014 (IST)

Some other points:

It could not have got as far as Snizhne by 14:15

TAMAK waypoint is ON the Russian border (so it can't have been approximately 50km from the Russia-Ukraine border AND 30km from Tamak waypoint) --Two Dogs (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2014 (IST)