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:Good work on the Gates cabal. I've made a few changes to the "Pharma Lobby" page, which is now at [[Big pharma/Lobby]], since this is a logical subpage of [[Big pharma]]. Note the test above: ''Is it possible to say that "X ''is'' Y"''. So I wouldn't say that [[Bill Gates]] ''is'' [the] Pharma Lobby, though he ''is'' [a] [[Pharma lobbyist]]. Another idea wuld be to use {{t|{{!}}members=... }} for members of a group. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 18:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:Good work on the Gates cabal. I've made a few changes to the "Pharma Lobby" page, which is now at [[Big pharma/Lobby]], since this is a logical subpage of [[Big pharma]]. Note the test above: ''Is it possible to say that "X ''is'' Y"''. So I wouldn't say that [[Bill Gates]] ''is'' [the] Pharma Lobby, though he ''is'' [a] [[Pharma lobbyist]]. Another idea wuld be to use {{t|{{!}}members=... }} for members of a group. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 18:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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::The question I asked myself: '''How can a network of people, organizations and events be drawn?''' I.e Listed on a page? I understand your point. To checkout how SMW works I tried to pull together a few pages; and it worked, see list of 'Examples' [https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Big_pharma/Lobby&oldid=186643]
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::I read the documentation of template constitutes and so I (ab)used that for a tag. And I am aware things can get messy quickly that way. It would be important to keep track of tags, not overuse them and make them specific and unique.
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::I am searching for a cross linking mechanism which is '''not bound by a semantic meaning'''. The 'members' solution is a bit ugly. Maybe a new {{t|{{!}}connectedto}} parameter would do? -- Urban {{date}}

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Welcome to Wikispooks!

We're glad you came. There's lots to do.
The Community portal is probably the best place to start for new users. To add a Wikispooks search facility to your browser, go here. If you've got a topic you're itching to write about, just dive in. If you're not sure where to start, you can introduce yourself by editing either this page or your user page. Peter P (talk) 08:02, 24 September 2014 (IST)

Hi, happy to help. Is there a sandbox where I can try out things? I want to create a page in the category Globalization to introduce the research of James B. Glattfelder. Urban (talk) 05:58, 25 September 2014 (IST)
That brightened my day! I have a 3 year old grandaughter who is into "Charlie and Lola" - current favourite episode "Goodie-the-Good". She toddles around the house chirping "Happy-to-help" at everything :-)).
Anyway: here's a local sandbox. Just overwrite whatever is in there. It can always be retrieved if needed by last user. --Peter P (talk) 08:37, 25 September 2014 (IST)

The PLOS Study

This would be best done as a regular page; Template:Concept is probably the most appropriate existing one. I suggest retaining the existing title of The Network of Global Corporate Control with credit, attribution and copious referencing to the Plos Study itself. Template:Document is intended for the verbatim reproduction of third-party articles, reports, studies etc., and its parameters are for provenance, attribution and comment on relevance to the Wikispooks project. Having said that, the full study is also clearly a candidate for verbatim reproduction here, although wikifying it and doing it full justice would be quite a task. If you feel up to that, then use Form:Document, with the same title. Both the article and Document can co-exist with the same title because Documents sit in a separate namespace with the prefix "Document". Hope that helps. --Peter P (talk) 10:21, 29 September 2014 (IST)

Well, thanks. I wanted to upload a pdf version of the published paper - and saw that it's quite a challange to fulfill the requirements of Form:Document. There is also a very good video presentation of the paper and I thought of embedding it. I'll try the path you suggest and move to more complicated editing later.--Urban (talk) 10:55, 1 October 2014 (IST)
I've uploaded the pdf and used Form:Document to add some basic information. Feel free to add to/edit it. Also, the existing Sandbox outline can either be included in the provenance sections (ie Comment, Author Comment, Note) sections or used as the basis of stand-alone article describing the paper in detail. I agree, there is some eye-popping info in it. --Peter P (talk) 14:17, 1 October 2014 (IST)

Late reply

In case you missed it, I have replied to your Document talk:The So-Called Evidence Is a Farce query. Sorry about the delay.

In addition to the watchlist and RSS facilities, you may find the RTRC tool useful in spotting changes you are interested in. Just use the defaults to begin with though a 30+seconds refresh time is better for server load --Peter P (talk) 08:54, 25 October 2014 (IST)

Constitutes

I trimmed some of your additions to the |constitutes parameter. The test I use to tell what applies here is "is" - if it is possible to say that "X is Y", then adding Y to the constitutes parameter is fair enough. So for example, while false flag attacks may play a part in a strategy of tension, to equate the two in this way is not quite right. I'm about to try and write a policy to try to explain why, which I hope should make my thinking more clearly. -- Robin (talk) 06:53, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Good work on the Gates cabal. I've made a few changes to the "Pharma Lobby" page, which is now at Big pharma/Lobby, since this is a logical subpage of Big pharma. Note the test above: Is it possible to say that "X is Y". So I wouldn't say that Bill Gates is [the] Pharma Lobby, though he is [a] Pharma lobbyist. Another idea wuld be to use for members of a group. -- Robin (talk) 18:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
The question I asked myself: How can a network of people, organizations and events be drawn? I.e Listed on a page? I understand your point. To checkout how SMW works I tried to pull together a few pages; and it worked, see list of 'Examples' [1]
I read the documentation of template constitutes and so I (ab)used that for a tag. And I am aware things can get messy quickly that way. It would be important to keep track of tags, not overuse them and make them specific and unique.
I am searching for a cross linking mechanism which is not bound by a semantic meaning. The 'members' solution is a bit ugly. Maybe a new |connectedto parameter would do? -- Urban 29 March 2024