User talk:Terje

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Norman Kirk

I was unaware of Norman Kirk, but the timing of his sudden demise does seem interesting, in light of the Canberra Coup. I've expanded the page. -- Robin (talk) 03:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirects

I just fixed BILD Zeitung. Note that redirects only need the page name:

#REDIRECT[[Axel_Springer_Publishing_House]] , not #REDIRECT[[https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Axel_Springer_Publishing_House]]

-- Robin (talk) 04:08, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it. I still haven't mastered the tools here, it will take a long time.

Ditchley

a) How to express the relationships between these Ditchley groups? What would you think about having hierarchical pagenames, e.g. Ditchley, Ditchley/UK, Ditchley/US, Ditchley/Canada etc?

b) For listing members, where possible, try to use the template (metadata), since this data is machine readable, so will appear on other pages (e.g. as "Member of: Ditchley/UK"). I did this for the Bilderberg meetings after all the attendance lists were leaked. There are different ways this could be done, and I'm not sure which would work best. One approach might be to have a page Ditchley/Governors (c.f. Bilderberg/Steering committee) and tp use |members= to allocate membership. Background information is: How many members/governors/meetings are there? Where is this documented? How often does membership change?... -- Robin (talk) 09:46, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Robin, Thanks for the tip, I was struggling with making proper lists. I'll look into it on the weekend.

And yes, I belive Ditchley, Ditchley/UK, Ditchley/US, Ditchley/Canada would work.

Conversing

For starting new conversations, the user talk page is good. Where there's an ongoing conversation, I'm not automatically informed, but will probably keep an eye on replies. Do remember to end comments on talk pages with "-- ~~~~", which signs it. -- Robin (talk) 15:09, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Documents

Do add as many wikilinks (with '[') as you think helpful. The most important suggestion I have for what else to add would be |description, since this will help people navigate. -- Robin (talk) 14:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Not all Integrity Initaive documents are linked

Not all II4 documents are showing in https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Integrity_Initiative/Leak/4. Is there anything I can do to get them to show. Example of one not showing: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:CND_Integrity_Initiative_visit_to_Oslo,_29-31_Aug_2016

Or should I make a separate page with a list of all II4 documents existing on Wikispooks, including the ones that are jpg -pictures and pdf files? -- Terje (talk)

Looks OK to me. It might take time to appear. -- Robin (talk) 11:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Okey-dokey, I'll keep an eye on them, and see if they show up over the next few weeks. I'll start on batch II 3 soon, it is more work than I anticipated. -- Terje (talk)

Mange takk

Mange takk for hjelpen med wikispooks prosjektet. Det blir satt stor pris på Terje.

Your Integrity Initiative work is most welcome, as is your latest Military basepage. -- Peter (talk) 15:43, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

It is my pleasure, Peter - this is fun! And let's see if the Wikispooks profile can be raised a bit in the future.--Terje (talk)

Finding the Wikispooks page

Here's a tip on finding the Wikispooks pagename of an event. Often we use the same name for events as Wikipedia does, though sometimes this is clearly not suitable - in these cases, provided you know the year of the event, you can find a list of events from going there, e.g. 2016#Events lists all the events of 2016. -- Robin (talk) 18:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Simple tip

Sometimes I add content without supporting references, e.g. if I'm pretty sure but can't find a reference, or don't have time to. In this case, I use Template:cn to mark the major points where I feel a reference is justified. -- Robin (talk) 15:18, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Integrity Initiative/Leak

Congratulations on uploading the last of the Integrity Initiative/Leak documents, Terje, (and on adding the nationalities to the last Bilderbergers). In case you were wondering why the lists (e.g. Integrity_Initiative/Leak/7#Examples) are missing some, I assume it is just lag. Bilderberg/Guests/Nationality currently reports 2896/2962 are known, though I'm pretty sure they're all accounted for. I thought the IfS members were nearly done, but then I found another list. Wikipedia, by contrast, seems to have been working to reduce its information about the leak. It's now down to just 3 sentences. -- Robin (talk) 15:27, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I've done maybe 90% of the II-files. It took a few months longer than expected! Left out is a fair amount of the invoices and contact lists (most are integrated in other entries anyway) and most of the media/twitter analysis files (esp II 3 Skripal), which have a fiendish amount of graphics and don't add much anyway.

There are signs that II & partner efforts are still more active than ever, with a fresh country report against 'internal enemies' in Norway + stories/editorials that are obviously following leads from above.

Australia has an media campaign directed against China that looks very much like an II effort.

Not to mention the omertà in every Western country on mentioning Wikileaks/Douma... -- Terje (talk) 05:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Now just one person away from the complete known IfS staff. Note that they are still hiring. Whether they will really clean up their act and move their deep state business elsewhere is a moot point. -- Robin (talk) 16:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Couple more tips

I just undid your removal of titular logo, since I judge their logo to have the name written clearly enough to not need text next to it on the coverpage. (Currently that's the only use of that parameter). Whether it is readable of course depends on e.g. screen size, so it's not necessarily a clear cut decision.

You've been doing good work with groups and |members -- this is a good way to improve the existing pages too, since the existing members have a link to their group appear in the "Members of" section. The preferred format for names is not to have titles or usually not even middle initials, although for unknown people, it's good to keep all the info we have, so they are useful. When putting in lists of names as you've been, the simple takeaway for names with middle initials of people we have pages for is that if a preview shows them in red (not-linking), then taking the middle initials away should make them link.

As far as images go, I almost always use either "|left" or "|right", since then the text flows around it, instead of having white space either side around the image. -- Robin (talk) 16:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

I took away "titular logo" because when you previously clicked on Atlantik-Brücke on the main new edits page, it only opened a new page with the image jpg file, not the Wiki-entry itself.

Aha. I just checked that and I see the problem. Very likely due to the foreign character, since I haven't detected it before. I'll look into it. -- Robin (talk) 12:30, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

The lists are a great tool to capture surprising and not-so-surprising connections that otherwise wouldn't be seen, spook-connections and other. And eventually they will show that certain people are members of almost everything. Henry Kissinger, Carl Bildt, Zbigniew Brzezinski and a few other are front runners.

I leave out Dr., Prof., Amb., etc. If they are left, it is by oversight. Some of the people are nobility, which makes it a bit more ambiguous if their titles should be taken away. And the Yanks normally write Jr. with a comma i.e "Richie Rich, Jr" which I have to remove to make the lists work.Terje (talk)---

That's good practice. -- Robin (talk) 12:30, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Institute_for_Statecraft&oldid=924679244