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== 2015 June Discussion ==
 
  
It improved since last year, but I'm still not entirely happy with it... I just reduced the number of results returned for each tab from 15 down to 12, primarily to decrease loading time. I'm pretty happy with the format, but I'd value thoughts on how to improve it. I'm thinking about the following changes:
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''For talk prior to 2019, see the [[Talk:Main Page/Archive|archive]]''
  
* ''Larger images'' - since they are not really identifiable at the moment. I just upped them from 26 to 30px.
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==2021==
* (Re)moving the class icons - since they look odd next to the images.
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This has not been reliably rendering as a tabstrip for me 100% of the time. I think it's possibly browser dependent. Is it rendering OK for you? -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 14:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
* Rethinking which tabs are needed, since they all slow loading time.
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:Actually, I do remember odd behavior for non-standard characters, or display of <ref> in unexpected places, such as properties. That might be it. Anyway: -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:21, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
* Removing at least one of the strips above the tabstrip
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* [[Chromium]] - 2021-07-27 - Top tab rendered above the rest, which are normally tabbed, so the page is twice as tall as it should be
* Using some of the semantic data (e.g. [[Property:Description]]) to provide some information either as a tool tip, or on the page itself
 
  
I still almost never use the front page (too bandwidth heavy, too slow). As last year, ideas welcome. [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 19:35, 23 June 2015 (IST)
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==2019==
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What does the title "Main Page" add to the coverpage? -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 10:07, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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:Nothing, but we're stuck with it just now. The <code>No Title</code> Extension crashes the site. There is probably a simple solution but I haven't looked for it yet --[[User:Peter|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter|talk]]) 10:17, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
  
== 2014 June Discussion ==
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:Fixed --[[User:Peter|Peter]] ([[User talk:Peter|talk]]) 10:49, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
  
I've just refactored the source code for easier readability. In the process I've lost the orange (easily reinstated, but actually prefer just blue. I was never convinced orange was a good match:) but deliberately left it otherwise unchanged for now. However, since it's SMW based, adjusting the content should be a breeze. Issues to work on:
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Is there a list of articles with no content in the bio? I am working on filling in missing bios but they are somewhat hard to ID. There are a lot of outstanding VIPs especially for the more recent bilderberg meetings. -- [[User:Dan|Dan]] ([[User talk:Dan|talk]]) 02:01, 18 August 2019 (EST)
  
* <s>Lack of images</s>
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: We don't really do static lists, since it's too much work to maintain them. To generate live lists (this is how [[Template:SMWDocs]] works), you need to go to [[Special:Ask]], the interface to semantic querying. It's very flexible once you learn the syntax to type into the '''Condition''' box. Here are some to get started:
* <s>Inclusion of relative junk (e.g. [[Test/Main-page-panels]] - visitors don't want this)</s>
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: * Any page who describing a person: {{t|<nowiki>[[Has objectClass::Person]]</nowiki>}}
* <s>Lack of structure (people, events, etc. all jumbled together, in a way this reflects the software structure, which doesn't interest people, not the semantic content which does)</s>
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: * Any page with less than 512 bytes of content: {{t|<nowiki>[[Has revisionSize::<<512]]</nowiki>}}
* Lack of details
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: * Any page (i.e. anyone) who attended the [[2019 Bilderberg]]: {{t|<nowiki> [[-Has participant::Bilderberg/2019]]</nowiki>}}
* Quite a lot of space used up - seems not good for small screen devices
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: * Anyone who attended 8 Bilderbergs: {{t|<nowiki> [[Has bilderbergCount::8]]</nowiki>}}
* <s>Annoying "File:" at the start of the list of files</s>
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: * Anyone who attended the 201? Bilderberg: {{t|<nowiki> [[-Has participant::~Bilderberg/201?]]</nowiki>}}
* Lack of excitement?
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: * Anyone who attended any Bilderberg: {{t|<nowiki> [[-Has participant::~Bilderberg/*]]</nowiki>}}
This is not an exhaustive list. I ''never'' use the main page. I wonder what it would take to make it helpful for me. I note a test page which includes image/video...
 
  
[[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 05:28, 27 June 2014 (IST)
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:These can be stacked, so for anyone who attended the Bilderberg since 2010, has attended at least 5 Bilderbergs, and has a page with less than 512 bytes of content:
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::  {{t|<nowiki>[[-Has participant::~Bilderberg/201?]][[Has bilderbergCount::>5]][[Has revisionSize::<<512]]</nowiki>}}
  
: I use Feedly pro as my RSS reader. I scan a vast number of articles every day and tag maybe a dozen or so as worthy of proper review - reduced to maybe 6 on reading. I would like to be able to display the linked titles of those tagged article - probably on the Main page but certainly linked from there. Since I include new WS pages in the reader, tagging those would result in links to them too. I'm bogged down in the technicalities and may cry help --[[User:Peter|Peter P]] ([[User talk:Peter|talk]]) 06:55, 27 June 2014 (IST)
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A good place to see what sort of queries are possible is at https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Selecting_pages Alternatively, if you've any particular queries you'd like to make, feel free to post to [[User_talk:Robin|my talk page]]. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 19:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
:I'd also like to be able to put a simple bit of linked text on the main header where the site maintenance warning goes, in order to draw attention to some other cause du-jour. For example [[Denis Rancourt]] is a long-standing colleague who has just lost his 3 year long defamation case for a cool $1 million - [https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/denis-rancourt-legal-defence-fund/x/1311109 See here]. I want to link to that appeal. I'd like to be able to have the space blank or to show an appropriate link with brief detail and be over-ridden by the site maintenance warning when necessary - Simply!!! --[[User:Peter|Peter P]] ([[User talk:Peter|talk]]) 07:06, 27 June 2014 (IST)
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:: Another approach would be to make a project of giving each Bilderberger of interest a description (add {{t|<nowiki>{{!}}description=...</nowiki>}} to that person template at the top of the page). This sets the line of text that appears in the {{t|Participants}} section of each Bilderberg meeting, so it's easy to see who is missing a still description (most of them). -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 20:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:21, 27 July 2021

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For talk prior to 2019, see the archive

2021

This has not been reliably rendering as a tabstrip for me 100% of the time. I think it's possibly browser dependent. Is it rendering OK for you? -- Robin (talk) 14:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I do remember odd behavior for non-standard characters, or display of <ref> in unexpected places, such as properties. That might be it. Anyway: -- Robin (talk) 16:21, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Chromium - 2021-07-27 - Top tab rendered above the rest, which are normally tabbed, so the page is twice as tall as it should be

2019

What does the title "Main Page" add to the coverpage? -- Robin (talk) 10:07, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Nothing, but we're stuck with it just now. The No Title Extension crashes the site. There is probably a simple solution but I haven't looked for it yet --Peter (talk) 10:17, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Fixed --Peter (talk) 10:49, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Is there a list of articles with no content in the bio? I am working on filling in missing bios but they are somewhat hard to ID. There are a lot of outstanding VIPs especially for the more recent bilderberg meetings. -- Dan (talk) 02:01, 18 August 2019 (EST)

We don't really do static lists, since it's too much work to maintain them. To generate live lists (this is how Template:SMWDocs works), you need to go to Special:Ask, the interface to semantic querying. It's very flexible once you learn the syntax to type into the Condition box. Here are some to get started:
* Any page who describing a person: [[Has objectClass::Person]]
* Any page with less than 512 bytes of content: [[Has revisionSize::<<512]]
* Any page (i.e. anyone) who attended the 2019 Bilderberg: [[-Has participant::Bilderberg/2019]]
* Anyone who attended 8 Bilderbergs: [[Has bilderbergCount::8]]
* Anyone who attended the 201? Bilderberg: [[-Has participant::~Bilderberg/201?]]
* Anyone who attended any Bilderberg: [[-Has participant::~Bilderberg/*]]
These can be stacked, so for anyone who attended the Bilderberg since 2010, has attended at least 5 Bilderbergs, and has a page with less than 512 bytes of content:
[[-Has participant::~Bilderberg/201?]][[Has bilderbergCount::>5]][[Has revisionSize::<<512]]

A good place to see what sort of queries are possible is at https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Selecting_pages Alternatively, if you've any particular queries you'd like to make, feel free to post to my talk page. -- Robin (talk) 19:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Another approach would be to make a project of giving each Bilderberger of interest a description (add {{!}}description=... to that person template at the top of the page). This sets the line of text that appears in the Participants section of each Bilderberg meeting, so it's easy to see who is missing a still description (most of them). -- Robin (talk) 20:02, 19 August 2019 (UTC)