Difference between revisions of "Talk:False flag"
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| + | :The Wikipedia article on False Flag is extremely deceptive, as is very easy to prove. Most of their examples (even according to their own articles on those events) are not false-flag. | ||
| + | :I agree that 911 meets the primary requisites for being false-flag, though I have concerns for the limited amount of corroboration we're providing. | ||
| + | :I would work on the [[Annie Machon]] page but I hardly know anything about the subject other than IRA bombs that should and could have been prevented, secret MI5 files held on government ministers overseeing intelligence services, illegal MI5 phone taps and lying to government by the same and an alleged assassination attempt on Colonel Gaddafi. There is a review of her book "Spies, Lies and Whistleblowers: MI5, MI6 and the Shayler Affair" [http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/185776952X/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_3?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addThreeStar here] which would serve as a good start. And an article on the 1994 bombing of the Israeli embassy would be good, a highly suspicious event and a very possible false-flag. [[User:Toolbox|Toolbox]] 13:33, 20 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
== All The Italics... == | == All The Italics... == | ||
Revision as of 13:33, 20 March 2012
"It is almost unheard of for a Western nation to carry out a False Flag attack"
Is it? In this century so far, I can think of 3 likely candidates off the top of my head: Sep 11th, the 7/7 bombings & UK operatives in Iraq stirring up sectarian violence (e.g. http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1556). What does it mean for a nation to carry out a flase flag? If we're talking about the intelligence services, it's a standard technique. Western intelligence services are by no means unwilling to try this type of stunt - maybe more willing, since they have a lot of assets in the media to help them pull it off. Listen to Annie Machon for more, e.g. at http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/533
"False flag" includes 'flag' in the etymology, but it doesn't necessarily need flags or uniforms. For me, a False Flag attack is an attack designed to be pinned on someone else - e.g. 9/11 to be blamed on Bin Laden.
It is on just such areas as these that WP falls flat on its face due to political manipulation -- so it's an important article, and one which is current confusing an unclear, IMHO. Robin 10:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia article on False Flag is extremely deceptive, as is very easy to prove. Most of their examples (even according to their own articles on those events) are not false-flag.
- I agree that 911 meets the primary requisites for being false-flag, though I have concerns for the limited amount of corroboration we're providing.
- I would work on the Annie Machon page but I hardly know anything about the subject other than IRA bombs that should and could have been prevented, secret MI5 files held on government ministers overseeing intelligence services, illegal MI5 phone taps and lying to government by the same and an alleged assassination attempt on Colonel Gaddafi. There is a review of her book "Spies, Lies and Whistleblowers: MI5, MI6 and the Shayler Affair" here which would serve as a good start. And an article on the 1994 bombing of the Israeli embassy would be good, a highly suspicious event and a very possible false-flag. Toolbox 13:33, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
All The Italics...
This important page is rather messy. i.e. Has rather a low signal:noise ratio. Can we trim it of some of the italics? Or better yet replace them with lists of proven or suspected False Flag attacks. :-)
Robin 16:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- I agree - all the stuff about International Law, Maritime Law (all of Section 2 and Section 3) only duplicates whats in the other place. It's pointless and degrades what's new and different in this place. We should take it out. Toolbox 18:16, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
