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(Almost unheard of for a Western nation !... I wish)
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== "It is almost unheard of for a Western nation to carry out a False Flag attack" ==
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Is it? In this century so far, I can think of 3 likely candidates off the top of my head: Sep 11th, the 7/7 bombings & UK operatives in Iraq stirring up sectarian violence (e.g. http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1556). What does it mean for a nation to carry out a flase flag? If we're talking about the intelligence services, it's a standard technique. Western intelligence services are by no means unwilling to try this type of stunt - maybe more willing, since they have a lot of assets in the media to help them pull it off. Listen to Annie Machon for more, e.g. at http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/533
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"False flag" includes 'flag' in the etymology, but it doesn't necessarily need flags or uniforms. For me, a False Flag attack is an attack designed to be pinned on someone else - e.g. 9/11 to be blamed on Bin Laden.
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It is on just such areas as these that WP falls flat on its face due to political manipulation -- so it's an important article, and one which is current confusing an unclear, IMHO.
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[[User:Robin|Robin]] 10:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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== All The Italics... ==
 
== All The Italics... ==
  

Revision as of 10:38, 20 March 2012

"It is almost unheard of for a Western nation to carry out a False Flag attack"

Is it? In this century so far, I can think of 3 likely candidates off the top of my head: Sep 11th, the 7/7 bombings & UK operatives in Iraq stirring up sectarian violence (e.g. http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1556). What does it mean for a nation to carry out a flase flag? If we're talking about the intelligence services, it's a standard technique. Western intelligence services are by no means unwilling to try this type of stunt - maybe more willing, since they have a lot of assets in the media to help them pull it off. Listen to Annie Machon for more, e.g. at http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/533

"False flag" includes 'flag' in the etymology, but it doesn't necessarily need flags or uniforms. For me, a False Flag attack is an attack designed to be pinned on someone else - e.g. 9/11 to be blamed on Bin Laden.

It is on just such areas as these that WP falls flat on its face due to political manipulation -- so it's an important article, and one which is current confusing an unclear, IMHO. Robin 10:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


All The Italics...

This important page is rather messy. i.e. Has rather a low signal:noise ratio. Can we trim it of some of the italics? Or better yet replace them with lists of proven or suspected False Flag attacks. :-)

Robin 16:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree - all the stuff about International Law, Maritime Law (all of Section 2 and Section 3) only duplicates whats in the other place. It's pointless and degrades what's new and different in this place. We should take it out. Toolbox 18:16, 18 March 2012 (UTC)