Talk:Deep state functionary

Deep state tool?

Deep state tool redirects here. I wonder whether this might be worth separating from deep state functionary. If so, how would the meanings be separated?... -- Robin (talk) 15:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I see only 5 people with deep state tool at the moment: Neil Ferguson,Daniel Andrews,Karl Lauterbach ,Mark McGowan (Australian politician),Jens Spahn . I suppose a tool is too stupid/ignorant to realize he/she is being used, while a functionary just follows orders. Terje (talk) 23:50, 2 May 2022 (UTC)---

Makes sense, but in practice, quite difficult to tell the two apart. -- Robin (talk) 12:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Why not use Intelligence terms? Agent of Influence and Useful idiot are known terms in political and intelligence circles and used by corporate media & Hollywood. Although I prefer DSF, for the record. --Jun (talk) 20:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

It is easier to stick to only DSF. "Useful idiot" and "deep state tool" are a bit to negative, although very fitting in many cases. "Agent of Influence" is handy, but maybe to subjective.

Terje (talk) 23:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC)