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(Yes, it is speculation, but important speculation.)
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Human perception is based on pattern recognition that's about all we know. Linking complex psychic phenomena to brain functions never had a scientific basis to it. It's the environment which can turn good people into "sheep" or "sociopaths" (see i.e. Zimbardo:Stanford prision experiment). We need to consider the conditions of this environment more than that of the people in it. [[User:Urban|Urban]] ([[User talk:Urban|talk]]) 13:59, 29 March 2015 (IST)
 
Human perception is based on pattern recognition that's about all we know. Linking complex psychic phenomena to brain functions never had a scientific basis to it. It's the environment which can turn good people into "sheep" or "sociopaths" (see i.e. Zimbardo:Stanford prision experiment). We need to consider the conditions of this environment more than that of the people in it. [[User:Urban|Urban]] ([[User talk:Urban|talk]]) 13:59, 29 March 2015 (IST)
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:I just referenced [http://www.unwelcomeguests.net/archive/652/Left%20in%20the%20Dark.pdf Tony Wright's book], which was the most interesting book I read last year. It ''is'' speculative, and I've just redone the text to make that clear. I also moved it to the bottom, since it is not central to the topic of [[Consensus trance]] - I agree that Asch and Zimbardo etc. have more directly relevant evidence. Nevertheless, it deserves a place on this page, since I see a pretty clear connection. How many people feel trapped by obedience to a logical system of thought which on one level they know goes against their love of life...? [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 18:07, 29 March 2015 (IST)

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Hemispherical dominance?

There is no evidence to support the hypothesis that people can be manipulated or are in a "consensus trance" because their brains are not developed to their full potential. Tony Wright goes right from hypothesis to diagnosis in his book "Left in the Dark" (which is not referenced). This is a very dangerous path and I consider his work 100% speculation (an interesting speculation though, and I feel sympathy for his individual life style).

Human perception is based on pattern recognition that's about all we know. Linking complex psychic phenomena to brain functions never had a scientific basis to it. It's the environment which can turn good people into "sheep" or "sociopaths" (see i.e. Zimbardo:Stanford prision experiment). We need to consider the conditions of this environment more than that of the people in it. Urban (talk) 13:59, 29 March 2015 (IST)

I just referenced Tony Wright's book, which was the most interesting book I read last year. It is speculative, and I've just redone the text to make that clear. I also moved it to the bottom, since it is not central to the topic of Consensus trance - I agree that Asch and Zimbardo etc. have more directly relevant evidence. Nevertheless, it deserves a place on this page, since I see a pretty clear connection. How many people feel trapped by obedience to a logical system of thought which on one level they know goes against their love of life...? Robin (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2015 (IST)