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Lockerbie link to 9-11

9/11 is a topic which until very recently I have studiously avoided. On 30 June 2015, I finally uncovered the Scottish Mirror article of 11 September 2001 that I remembered reading with incredulity fourteen long years ago. A friend had sent me the link but it was lost somehow over the years. Googling the press on that date only turned up secondary sources or links to 9/11 articles. Then Eureka! On 30 June 2015, I stumbled across the BBC News report of 11 September 2001 "Key Lockerbie 'evidence' not used" and there was the long lost Scottish Mirror front page. Straightaway I wrote a second letter to Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe referring to the Heathrow break-in and the Scottish Mirror revelations. I also mounted email, Facebook and Twitter campaigns that have all been well received.

On 2 July 2015, my first edit to the 9/11 page which introduced this missing Lockerbie link was deleted and relegated to one of the mere 9-11/Coincidences‎. My second edit on 3 July, again deleted, introduced the idea of George H W Bush and the CIA's complicity in both attacks:

Lockerbie led by South Africa's Civil Cooperation Bureau; and,
9/11 led by Mossad.

I would urge Robin to reconsider, unprotect the 9/11 page and link it as I have suggested to its terrorist predecessor Pan Am Flight 103.--Patrick Haseldine (talk) 19:19, 3 July 2015 (IST)

Patrick, welcome to the talk page. A record of our discussions will help readers more than simple reversion and re-reversion of edits. Please do not assume that the 9-11/Coincidences‎ page is for 'mere' coincidences (perhaps it would be better entitled 9-11/'Coincidences‎'). On its own, the connection you suggest could be regarded as a 'mere' coincidence, so I placed it alongside other similar material in order to present a more compelling case - since multiple such 'coincidences' become that much more implausible. I'm glad you have decided to explore the connections between these deep events - I do not believe the Lockerbie bombing was an isolated incident, but part of a larger pattern. You may wish to work on that page, or perhaps make a Scottish Mirror article, and/or post that cover story as a Document and explore its implications. As a relative newcomer to 9/11, you may be interested to listen to a broadcast I made on its 10th anniversary. For further study of 9-11 I can also recommend the material on this page. Since you have until very recently "studiously avoided" the topic, remember that you may still have a lot to learn about it. Robin (talk) 20:26, 3 July 2015 (IST)

SMWDocs Issue?

I wonder why the Related Documents section of this page doesn't reflect the Property:Display docType of the documents listed... Robin (talk) 15:40, 10 February 2014 (GMT)

I've noticed that before and often. If you refresh one of the listed pages, then return here and refresh it, it will display the correct type. I originally thought it was a job queue issue, but I don't think it is now since the incorrect displays have survived several hard cache clears and data rebuilds. I've just confirmed the behaviour again on the top item it the list --Peter P (talk) 16:08, 10 February 2014 (GMT)