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Some commentators have suggested that [[Edward Snowden]] may not in fact be the dissident voice that he claims, but in fact be part of a modified limited hangout operation to chill resistance and encourage people to self-censor. His main evidence appears to be the facts that (i) Snowden's revelations have not touched on [[deep events]] such as the [[JFK assassination]] or [[9-11]], & (ii) the anomalous treatment of Snowden by the {{ccm}} as compared to other [[whistleblowers]].
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Some commentators have suggested that [[Edward Snowden]] may not in fact be the dissident voice that he claims, but in fact be part of a modified limited hangout operation to chill resistance and encourage people to self-censor. His main evidence appears to be the facts that (i) Snowden's revelations have not touched on [[deep events]] such as the [[JFK assassination]] or [[9-11]], & (ii) the anomalous treatment of Snowden by the {{ccm}} as compared to other [[whistleblowers]]. <ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ya3fr/i_am_now_convinced_that_snowden_is_part_of_a/</ref><ref>http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/06/18/309609/how-to-identify-cia-limited-hangout-op/</ref> [[John Young]] and [[Deborah Natsios]] of [[Cryptome]], as well as [[Sibel Edmonds]] have voiced strong critique about the Snowden affair in the past too. <ref>http://timshorrock.com/?p=2354</ref> <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-nC36D3nBk</ref>
<ref>http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ya3fr/i_am_now_convinced_that_snowden_is_part_of_a/</ref><ref>http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/06/18/309609/how-to-identify-cia-limited-hangout-op/</ref>
 
  
 
===Wikileaks===
 
===Wikileaks===

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A propaganda technique to suppress revelation of secret information.

A "limited hangout" is the deliberate revelation of some information (i.e. about malfeasance) to try to prevent discovery of other information.

Modified limited hangout

In a March 22, 1973 meeting between Richard Nixon, John Dean, John Ehrlichman, John Mitchell, and H.R. Haldeman, Ehrlichman incorporated the term into a new and related one, "modified limited hangout."[1][2]

The phrase was coined in the following exchange:[3]

PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the -- let it hang out, so to speak?

DEAN: Well, it's, it isn't really that --
HALDEMAN: It's a limited hang out.
DEAN: It's a limited hang out.
EHRLICHMAN: It's a modified limited hang out.
PRESIDENT: Well, it's only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.

Before this exchange, the discussion captures Nixon outlining to Dean the content of a report that Dean would create, laying out a misleading view of the role of the White House staff in events surrounding the Watergate coup. In Ehrlichman's words: "And the report says, 'Nobody was involved,'". The document would then be shared with the Senate Watergate Committee investigating the affair. The report would serve the administration's goals by protecting the President, providing documentary support for his false statements should information come to light that contradicted his stated position. Further, the group discusses having information on the report leaked by those on the Committee sympathetic to the President, to put exculpatory information into the public sphere.[3]

The phrase has been cited as a summation of the strategy of mixing partial admissions with misinformation and resistance to further investigation, and is used in political commentary to accuse people or groups of following a Nixon-like strategy.[4]

Writing in the Washington Post, Mary McGrory described a statement by Pope John Paul II regarding sexual abuse by priests as a "modified, limited hangout".

Incompetence Theories vs. Conspiracy Theories

The fall back to the official story, looks like a disclosure but serves to shut down further inquiry.

Incompetence theories distract from understanding malice. Limited hang outs are like using Newton's Laws to describe the way the universe works at the subatomic level. Newtonian physics is useful for building a bridge, but is an incomplete description of reality. http://www.oilempire.us/map.html

In "Land Of Idols," (St. Martin's Press, 1994) Michael Parenti offers "alternatives" to conspiracy theories:

  • Somnambulist Theory: The wealthiest 1 percent sleepwalk through life, never giving a thought to their vast wealth or how to keep it.
  • Coincidence Theory: Things repeatedly happen by chance in ways that magically maintain the interests of the very wealthy, year after year.
  • Stupidity Theory: The very rich are befuddled, incompetent and ineffectual. They just don't know how they keep that power.
  • Spontaneity or Idiosyncrasy Theory: Stuff happens (in a way that keeps the system in place.) Again and again. Over long periods of time.
  • Aberration Theory: Dirty tricks of the CIA and so forth are "atypical departures" from the norm.

The above theories would have us believe our inequitable tax system, corporate-owned media, unjust social conditions and other wrongful policies are momentary aberrations, isolated from the central goal of our political system. Again, that goal is protecting the money and power of the wealthiest 1percent.

Parenti points out that the wealthiest 1 percent naturally defend their interests, just as farmers or steelworkers defend theirs.

Suspicions

Webster Tarpley maintains a high level of suspicion of the commercially-controlled media and has voiced skepticism early about stories they promote. He suggests that examples of Modified limited hangout include:

Edward Snowden

Full article: Edward Snowden affair

Some commentators have suggested that Edward Snowden may not in fact be the dissident voice that he claims, but in fact be part of a modified limited hangout operation to chill resistance and encourage people to self-censor. His main evidence appears to be the facts that (i) Snowden's revelations have not touched on deep events such as the JFK assassination or 9-11, & (ii) the anomalous treatment of Snowden by the commercially-controlled media as compared to other whistleblowers. [5][6] John Young and Deborah Natsios of Cryptome, as well as Sibel Edmonds have voiced strong critique about the Snowden affair in the past too. [7] [8]

Wikileaks

Strong evidence that Wikileaks is a modified limited hangout was provided by Julian Assange himself, quoted in July 2010 as stating that "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud." It seems unlikely that he could miss such an obvious false flag.[9]

 

Examples

Page nameDescription
Afghanistan PapersA set of documents published by The Washington Post which constitute an official opposition narrative that the invasion of Afghanistan was a mistake.
Donald Trump/Conspiracy theoriesWikipedia has an article listing all the "conspiracy theories" promoted by Donald Trump.
Hollywood/VIPaedophileOver the years, many people have alleged that paedophilia is widespread in Hollywood. No systematic investigation has been carried out, but increasingly many insiders are personally testifying about the widespread nature of the business.
IncompetenceIncompetence is often a limited hangout.
Jeffrey Epstein/Associates ListJeffrey Epstein's associates list was released in January 2024
Jeffrey Epstein/Black bookA list of contacts of Epstein. Many famous people. Nobody tried to investigate why, only cherry picked names and every confronted individual denied the book to mean anything other than a paper contact list, which doesn't seem plausible. Why some are still omitted is also not clear.
Lockdown FilesMatt Hanchock has his WhatsApp messages leaked
Mani pulite
National Security ArchiveThe largest repository of declassified U.S. documents outside the federal government.
NieuwsuurA state-funded TV program that replaced several award-winning current affairs programs that were "too biased"...meaning not following the official narrative.
Panama PapersA huge (2.6TB) cache of confidential documents created by the Panamanian corporate service provider Mossack Fonseca that provide detailed information on more than 214,000 offshore companies, including the identities of shareholders and directors. Those identified include numerous wealthy and powerful political figures and organisations of many countries.
Pandora PapersThe most expansive leak of tax haven files in history
Paradise PapersA set of 13.4 million confidential electronic documents about use of tax havens to house around $10 trillion. The highly skewed nature of the exposure (very little from the US) suggest it was a modified hangout
Pentagon PapersReport of the Office of the Secretary of Defense Vietnam Task Force
PizzagateImportant conspiracy in the US/2016 Presidential election campaign.
Project Pegasus revelationsMass leak of info about Israel spyware
QAnonDeep State perpetrated modified limited hangout cum distraction psyop to try to obscure the increasing public awareness of its presence
Rockefeller CommissionA limited hangout to try to control revelations about the US deep state's exploitation of the CIA.
The Twitter FilesElon Musk buying Twitter resulted in the exposure of internal Twitter Inc documents
Wikileaks/Vault 7Release of electronic surveillance and cyber warfare tools from the CIA arsenal.

 

Related Document

TitleTypePublication dateAuthor(s)Description
Document:How to identify CIA limited hangout operationarticle18 June 2013Webster TarpleyCiting the Pentagon Papers as an example, Tarpley suggests that both Wikileaks and the Snowden affair are limited hangout operations by the CIA.
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